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G1X vs Fuji pro X1

 
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Dec 30, 2012 14:27 |  #1

I know the lens difference and cost differences, but how does the imaging compare between these two? I'm thinking of finally giving up with the DSLR (IDMKIII) and going light.


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Dec 30, 2012 15:38 |  #2

Jannie wrote in post #15424214 (external link)
I know the lens difference and cost differences, but how does the imaging compare between these two? I'm thinking of finally giving up with the DSLR (IDMKIII) and going light.

I looked at that selection early this year, just couldn,t justify the cost of spending £2000 + on the Fuji against £600 on the G1x.
Slighty better image quality and marginally quicker to focus on the Fuji. Almost 10 months on I think I would probably still have gone for the G1x.
Friend of mine has the Pro X1, doesn,t like the menu interface on it.


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Dec 30, 2012 16:52 |  #3

Only one has fast primes and lets you build a system. That can be a pro or a con depending on what you are after.


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Dec 31, 2012 02:51 |  #4

There's no comparison really. The Fuji has a bigger sensor, better dynamic range, faster lenses, more flexible (there is a zoom lens in the range with more to come), better viewfinder and in terms of image quality (which is what you particular asked for) it's superb. I used one for a day and was amazed at how sharp the raw files were... better than my 7D and up there with the best APS-C cameras. The only area the G1-X wins is price but then it's not really a fair comparison.

The Fuji won't be as quick as your 1D and is no good for sports/wildlife but for everything else is a camera you could replace your DSLR with on equal terms, the G1-X is good for a compact but has it's limitations.

I found the X-pro1 a pleasure to use and enjoyed the freedom of being able to fit the camera and 3 lenses in a tiny (retro 5) shoulder bag that you didn't even know you were carrying... I'd also look at the XE-1, same sensor and processor but slightly smaller and cheaper or the Olympus OM-D.


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Dec 31, 2012 02:53 |  #5

also wanted to get advise on these cameras.




  
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Jan 12, 2013 00:06 |  #6

I have XE-1, the little brother of the Xpro-1 that shares virtually the same specs with the Xpro1 minus the OVF, less the size and plus a high resolution EVF.

Talking about Image quality, It is A LOT better than 7D and much better than 5DII at hi ISO, and of course it outclasses the GX1 without any question.

If you are looking for IQ, I would say fuji IS a top choice. If you are looking for best jpeg, fuji is also the choice. If you are looking for best SOOC color, again, go fuji. If you want choice of top quality lenses at super reasonable price, go fuji. The company road map suggested fuji will release at least 6 more lenses this year... and CZ will release 3 AF lenses for fuji X mount in April.

To add more excitment... Fuji just announced X100s...

If you have read the release of the X100s, you should have already known fuji implements a whole new super fast (hybrid) AF system, a totally innovative MF system (the world's first digital split screen), new X trans sensor, processor, best EVF etc to the new camera. This new release gives a good ideas of the direction the next X-pro/ X-E model will evolve.

BUT ...If you shoot RAW, you have to be patient. The only real weakness fuji system currently face is the lack of good raw support. But solution should be here soon.

Differnet people has different needs. If I have to choosie from GX1 and Xpro 1 , I will take fuji. If I need a good P&S, I would seriously consider Fuji X20.


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Jan 13, 2013 06:29 |  #7

nonick wrote in post #15477764 (external link)
To add more excitment... Fuji just announced X100s...

If you have read the release of the X100s, you should have already known fuji implements a whole new super fast (hybrid) AF system, a totally innovative MF system (the world's first digital split screen), new X trans sensor, processor, best EVF etc to the new camera. This new release gives a good ideas of the direction the next X-pro/ X-E model will evolve.

BUT ...If you shoot RAW, you have to be patient. The only real weakness fuji system currently face is the lack of good raw support. But solution should be here soon.

Differnet people has different needs. If I have to choosie from GX1 and Xpro 1 , I will take fuji. If I need a good P&S, I would seriously consider Fuji X20.

Can,t understand Fuji,s design philosphy here the X100s a fixed lens at 23mm is predominately a landscape lens so why have something very fast focussing on a semi static scenario.
I would have thought they would announce fast focus designs at the longer end of 100mm + where the action is and better suited.


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Jan 13, 2013 07:14 |  #8

nonick wrote in post #15477764 (external link)
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Talking about Image quality, It is A LOT better than 7D and much better than 5DII at hi ISO, ...

I wish I believe you or you're right; but my gut tell me above statement just well over the top.

Anyway I'm waiting FF 'P&S' from Sony.


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Jan 13, 2013 11:49 |  #9

It's not over the top if you consider the high ISO noise the 7d exhibits. The Fuji far and away produces cleaner images with more dynamic range. Nothing is perfect though and the transition to mirrorless from any rebel or better dslr can be somewhat difficult. Focusing can be tricky...

I switched from a 60d kit and love the images I get from the x-e1 but being so used to be able to focus and snap with the dslr I now have to think more when using the x. And if your wife likes to use the cam as well, she may hate you for changing. My wife HATES this cam! Again the whole learning curve thing.

Love the form factor most and the lens selection is getting interesting. The kit zoom is fantastic and is not comparable to canon equivalent kit lenses. Very sharp corner to corner with excellent colour.

As well not much of a studio cam I don't think but maybe others can help you there.

Good luck.


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Jan 13, 2013 12:51 |  #10

The X-trans sensor is probably the best crop sensor on the market and delivers fantastic IQ,
but surely cannot beat a 5D2 (not even the classic)... Some people really are blinded by their purchase.


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Jan 13, 2013 13:36 |  #11

nonick wrote in post #15477764 (external link)
Talking about Image quality, It is A LOT better than 7D and much better than 5DII at hi ISO, and of course it outclasses the GX1 without any question.

Just to balance things up slightly, the G1-X beats the Fuji hands down at anything over 60mm ;)


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Jan 13, 2013 14:32 |  #12

binliner wrote in post #15483064 (external link)
Just to balance things up slightly, the G1-X beats the Fuji hands down at anything over 60mm ;)

Also the G1x beats the Fuji hands down on viewing height range, the Fuji only works from about 1 foot to 6 foot, the G1x can get shots from ground zero to about 9 feet in height. The G1x gets where other cameras can,t reach.


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Jan 13, 2013 19:29 |  #13

vmaniqui wrote in post #15426388 (external link)
also wanted to get advise on these cameras.

me too


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Jan 13, 2013 21:06 |  #14

Image quality: a very subjective topic. There are certainly technical aspects that can be measured but it's not possible to measure someone's individual tastes in what they do and don't like from one camera to the next. For example, test results tell me that the 16MP Sony NEX cameras should easily have better image quality than the G1X and yet, I preferred the look from the Canon over that from the NEX 5N. I can see where the two cameras are different, but the bigger numbers from the Sony don't translate into a preferrable image output...for me.

I've been interested in the X-E1 since it was announced and have looked through many, many images from it and the X-Pro1 and while I like very much what I see I am not smitten enough at it's price point to jump. I definitely don't need another camera and I don't have a camera that I want to give up in it's place, so for now I remain on the sidelines as far as Fuji is concerned.


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Jan 13, 2013 22:00 |  #15

Judder Man wrote in post #15481876 (external link)
Can,t understand Fuji,s design philosphy here the X100s a fixed lens at 23mm is predominately a landscape lens so why have something very fast focussing on a semi static scenario.
I would have thought they would announce fast focus designs at the longer end of 100mm + where the action is and better suited.

It's a range finder style camera... 23mmx1.5 = 34.5mm, good for walk around, street and environmental portrait, bokeh. Nothing is confusing to me...


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