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FINALLY! A simple shutter count program for (many) EOS cameras

 
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Jan 05, 2013 10:27 |  #526

EL_PIC wrote in post #15447880 (external link)
Some people {actually many} believe in that marketing crap on shutter durability rates.

Same people that believed the world ended on December 21, 2012?

(that didn't quite go as planned, did it)


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Jan 05, 2013 11:48 |  #527

EL_PIC wrote in post #15447880 (external link)
Some people {actually many} believe in that marketing crap on shutter durability rates.

^^Agree. I'm trying to sell my 5D MK II on my local forum, since I refer that it has nearly 170K on it, I've got some strange PM'S some saying that with that higher shutter count, the camera should have stopped working some time ago, the sensor is weared out, I shouldn't be selling something that is probably not working.


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Jan 05, 2013 11:58 |  #528

Kaiser_photographer wrote in post #15448146 (external link)
^^Agree. I'm trying to sell my 5D MK II on my local forum, since I refer that it has nearly 170K on it, I've got some strange PM'S some saying that with that higher shutter count, the camera should have stopped working some time ago, the sensor is weared out, I shouldn't be selling something that is probably not working.

Well, the real question is what are you selling it for and if the buyer has to replace the shutter in the next year would the total of those two costs be unreasonable for that camera?

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Well, the real question is HOW MUCH are you selling it for and if the buyer has to replace the shutter in the next year would the total of those two costs be unreasonable for that camera?


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Jan 05, 2013 12:29 |  #529

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Well, the real question is what are you selling it for and if the buyer has to replace the shutter in the next year would the total of those two costs be unreasonable for that camera?

Does it matter why he's selling? It's likely he's upgraded to the 5D3, no longer needs the 5D2, etc... And it doesn't sound like he's advertising it as "brand new".

If one's in the market to buy a used camera... one certainly should be prepared to buy something that could fail at the next shutter actuation and know that it's out of warranty. (And likely the price is reflective of that.) Otherwise, one shouldn't troll the used market and instead, buy new.


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In Fact there should be no shutter and therefore no shutter count in DSLR's.
The electrical sensor can turn light gather on and off thus there is no mechanical shutter at all.
This simplicity of design makes me shutter ..


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Jan 05, 2013 12:56 |  #531

jwcdds wrote in post #15448263 (external link)
Does it matter why he's selling? It's likely he's upgraded to the 5D3, no longer needs the 5D2, etc... And it doesn't sound like he's advertising it as "brand new".

If one's in the market to buy a used camera... one certainly should be prepared to buy something that could fail at the next shutter actuation and know that it's out of warranty. (And likely the price is reflective of that.) Otherwise, one shouldn't troll the used market and instead, buy new.

What are you selling it for?

interpreted from Canadian ---

How much are you selling it for?

Not

Why are you selling it?


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Jan 05, 2013 13:31 |  #532

jwcdds wrote in post #15448263 (external link)
Does it matter why he's selling? It's likely he's upgraded to the 5D3, no longer needs the 5D2, etc... And it doesn't sound like he's advertising it as "brand new".

If one's in the market to buy a used camera... one certainly should be prepared to buy something that could fail at the next shutter actuation and know that it's out of warranty. (And likely the price is reflective of that.) Otherwise, one shouldn't troll the used market and instead, buy new.

I'm selling because I've got a 5d MK iii, don't find the need to use it, and rather spend the money on some new glass.
Currently selling it for a very good price, in my opinion, advertising it with photos and printscreen from the shutter count, I'm not keeping anything from them and the price I'm asking for it, I've in my mind the price of a shutter replacement.
For example I'm asking 850 euros for it the shutter replacement from canon is close to 400 and in the local forum cameras with warranty until 2014 are advertising for 1300 euros.


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Jan 05, 2013 16:41 |  #533

EL_PIC wrote in post #15448297 (external link)
In Fact there should be no shutter and therefore no shutter count in DSLR's.
The electrical sensor can turn light gather on and off thus there is no mechanical shutter at all.
This simplicity of design makes me shutter ..

The mechanical shutter serves to protects the sensor from dust by keeping it covered most of the time. Also, it enables simpler sensor design without complicated on/off circuitry in the sensor, and therefore enables larger photosites and less noise. To accurately electronically control shutter speed you'd need a line of transistors next to every line of photosites.


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Jan 06, 2013 07:58 |  #534

rapurimanka wrote in post #15447268 (external link)
Didn't read the thread, just opened subj page and tried to check my cam, this pice of ... asks for money. Just to see my shutter count. For god sake...

How kind of you to volunteer to write the software yourself and also pay to host a website where everybody else can use it for free. It's generous people like you that make this world such a pleasant place.


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Jan 06, 2013 11:28 |  #535

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How kind of you to volunteer to write the software yourself and also pay to host a website where everybody else can use it for free. It's generous people like you that make this world such a pleasant place.

:lol:


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Jan 07, 2013 15:01 |  #536
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Mornnb wrote in post #15449155 (external link)
The mechanical shutter serves to protects the sensor from dust by keeping it covered most of the time. Also, it enables simpler sensor design without complicated on/off circuitry in the sensor, and therefore enables larger photosites and less noise. To accurately electronically control shutter speed you'd need a line of transistors next to every line of photosites.

Hogwash.
The SLR was replaced by the DSLR and the DSLR will be replaced with new tech.
Already there are many shutter less mirror less cameras and the gov has some very sophisticated advanced ones in use today.
More are comming ... and to the consumer level in a few years.
The Sony RX1 and the Fujifilm X-E1 already out are changing the DSLR role.
The near future DSLR equivalent will resemble more like one of these.
Microelectronics has made it become very simple to turn off electrical current to sensors in fast reliable manner and they dont attract dirt that way.
The shutter is going away.
If you have such a engineering background you know how.
You either embrace change or run from it .. just dont get in the way of it !!


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Jan 13, 2013 03:09 |  #537

Anyone know of any free shutter counters? I'm a bit too stingy to pay the 2 dollars to check my shutter count haha




  
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Jan 13, 2013 06:52 |  #538

Anyone get a funky serial number on the 5dIII? Mine is #19 apparently :)


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Jan 13, 2013 07:35 |  #539

tekkie wrote in post #15481918 (external link)
Anyone get a funky serial number on the 5dIII? Mine is #19 apparently :)

My 650D (T4i) shows serial numer 14.
The latest picture shows 6174, so I guess LiveView had 125 shutter releases.
That's plausible.

My 50D reports the full serial. The reported shuttercount is the same as ML reports.

Could it be the Digic version which causes the strange serial ?


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Jan 13, 2013 13:17 as a reply to  @ Canon Amateur's post |  #540

Hi, I am selling my 5D2; anyone know of a Mac Program to count shutter actuations?

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