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Canon 35mm f2 vs. Canon 40mm f2.8

 
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Jan 13, 2013 12:29 |  #16

You are looking for a "normal" lens...

On crop camera, that's a 30mm and the Sigma 30/1.4 is the only prime available at that focal length.

Both 35mm and 40mm are slightly "long normal"... a little more telephoto than usual for a normal lens.

The Canon 28/1.8 is slightly "wide normal".... just a little wider than usual for a normal lens. This is the lens I use and prefer. It's one of the most compact, reasonably fast EF/USM lenses, even with it's matched lens hood. I also like that this lens is usable on both crop and full frame. On full frame wide open it's a little soft in the corners, but on a crop camera you don't see this at all and it's a nice sharp lens. Because it's a USM lens, it's as fast, quiet and accurate focusing (probably even better than your 50/1.4).

Since you already have a 50/1.4 ( a nice "short portrait tele" on a crop camera), I'd suggest either a 28 or 30mm to better complement it than a 35 or 40mm would.

The Tokina 35/2.8 is a macro lens and will focus within a couple inches, to 1:1 magnification. It's a pretty short focal length to shoot macro, puts you quite close to the subject. It's the sort of macro that might be used for copy work or small products in a studio... probably would be fairly challenging to use in the field. I'd normally recommend a 60mm to 105mm macro lens for general, walk-around shooting purposes. These are a reasonable compromise of working distance vs handholdability. I used to recommend 90 to 105mm, but the Canon EF-S 60/2.8 and Tamron SP 60/2.0 Di II macros are excellent, compact alternatives for use on crop cameras (both are "crop only").

You might want to replace your 50mm with one of these 60mm macro lenses (the f2.0 Tamron might be preferable for dual-purpose use, such as portraiture, but it's likely slower focusing than the Canon 60mm)... or add a Sigma 75/2.8, Tamron 90/2.8, Tokina 100/2.8, Canon 100/2.8, Canon 100/2.L IS, or Sigma 105/2.8 OS to complement it.

Or you could simply add some macro extension tubes to your kit, useful to make any non-macro lens closer focusing. The Kenko (external link) are high quality and a good value. The ProOptic (external link) (Zeikos, Bower, Vivitar, etc.) and Opteka (external link) are a couple cheaper alternatives. (Stay clear of the really cheap, under $25 tube sets... they don't have electronic contacts, which means you lose autofocus and direct control over the aperture, making them a pain in the arse to shoot with.)

This rose bud was shot with Canon EF 50/1.4 on a Kenko or Canon extension tube (20 or 25mm, I forget which), on a crop camera....

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It was deliberately shot at a large aperture, which tends to soften the corners and add some vignetting with this particular lens on an extension tube. Stopping the lens down reduces both these effects.

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Jan 13, 2013 14:37 |  #17

Another vote for the Sigma 30 on a crop body. While it is twice the price of a pancake the 30mm on a 50D is a great combo. I used to go out with just that lens on my 50D quite often.


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Jan 13, 2013 15:44 |  #18

Personally, I think the 35/2 gets a bit of a bad rap. It is an older lens and has faults, buzzy focus, 5-bladed aperture, etc. But it's build quality is far better than the nifty fifty and it's just as sharp in the center.

And, though not applicable to you, 35mm on FF is my single favorite focal length. Though, with a crop body, you'll lose the corners of the image which are definitely the 35/2's weak spot.

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Jan 13, 2013 19:54 as a reply to  @ leftnose's post |  #19

When I shot film (my film cameras and lenses are in the closet), normal lenses for Minolta MD and other brands ran from 45 mm to 58 mm. The 58 was on the long side, but the 45 was a bit wide.
The 35 mm focal length on a Canon crop gives you a normal view (56 mm), from a traditional film camera viewpoint. I had a 45 mm Minolta MD F2 and always preferred a somewhat longer focal length. If the purpose of a lens is for people photos, a little longer focal length can be good.
This depends on the sort of photos you want to produce.
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Jan 13, 2013 20:00 |  #20

I chose the 28mm 1.8 as the standard for my 60D and don't regret it. I like the fact that it comes out to be slightly wider than 50, because I love the 40mm on full frame. It's also an EF lens, so it's usable on EOS film cameras as well as full frame DSLRs, unlike the Sigma 30mm.

I can see why you are considering the 35 and the 40 though. It's really sad that Canon doesn't offer a true "standard" lens for crop cameras at a decent price. You have to splurge for their wide-angle EF 28mm, or buy the 30mm from Sigma, for $400+ in both cases. I've said this multiple times on POTN so I probably sound like a broken record if you browse my post history, but it'd be nice if they made a ~$250 EF-S 30mm f/1.8.



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Jan 13, 2013 22:18 |  #21

ejackso1 wrote in post #15484586 (external link)
I chose the 28mm 1.8 as the standard for my 60D and don't regret it. I like the fact that it comes out to be slightly wider than 50, because I love the 40mm on full frame. It's also an EF lens, so it's usable on EOS film cameras as well as full frame DSLRs, unlike the Sigma 30mm.

I can see why you are considering the 35 and the 40 though. It's really sad that Canon doesn't offer a true "standard" lens for crop cameras at a decent price. You have to splurge for their wide-angle EF 28mm, or buy the 30mm from Sigma, for $400+ in both cases. I've said this multiple times on POTN so I probably sound like a broken record if you browse my post history, but it'd be nice if they made a ~$250 EF-S 30mm f/1.8.

Based on some posts here, 32f2 was going for $200 range few years back. And price jumped up to $300 levels recently.


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Jan 13, 2013 22:19 |  #22

It seems a lot of Canon's lenses have been creeping up in price, back in the early 00's when I was first getting in to photography I got my 50 1.8 new for $90 shipped, now you'll never find it for less than $100.


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Jan 14, 2013 00:07 |  #23

khwaja wrote in post #15485116 (external link)
Based on some posts here, 32f2 was going for $200 range few years back. And price jumped up to $300 levels recently.

inflation and exchange rates influence prices of everything.


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Jan 14, 2013 14:47 |  #24

e.pie wrote in post #15485125 (external link)
It seems a lot of Canon's lenses have been creeping up in price, back in the early 00's when I was first getting in to photography I got my 50 1.8 new for $90 shipped, now you'll never find it for less than $100.

I don't know if that's the best example...90 as opposed to maybe 105. You could probably find that lens for 90 if you looked.


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Jan 14, 2013 20:13 |  #25

jhs2419 wrote in post #15487930 (external link)
I don't know if that's the best example...90 as opposed to maybe 105. You could probably find that lens for 90 if you looked.

Nifty fifty is around for $90 multiple times from different retailers. One can get refurbished Canon 35 f2 for around $200 from Canon with the extra discounts. But,it is going to be long wait. Otherwise new 35 f2 price is around $290 levels for some time.


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