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Jan 14, 2013 10:03 |  #16

any of the 17 - 5x f2.8s would help most


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Jan 14, 2013 10:06 |  #17

jarrieta wrote in post #15485401 (external link)
Okay, thanks for your insight. On the Sigma though I have the opportunity to try before I buy. While for the Canon I will have to order online to get a better deal. Canon store prices in my country are 20-30% more expensive than the US.

If you have the opportunity to try before buying on the Sigma, and you prefer primes over zooms, then the Sigma 30mm is the way to go. Try it, bring a tripod & focusing chart, and plenty of light.


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Jan 14, 2013 10:36 |  #18

jarrieta wrote in post #15484524 (external link)
Hello, newbie here. I have a T2i (or Kiss X4 here in my part of the world) and have 3 lenses an 18-135 IS, 18-55 IS (don't use anymore) and 85mm 1.8. Been thinking of getting a short prime around 20-30mm range or a 28-75 or 24-70 (I can only afford Tamron, it costs $1200 new here). I don't have any plans of going FF soon, maybe never. Any suggestions given my current set-up should I go for a short prime instead of 2X-70X zoom? I like shooting people, group shots and sometimes indoor sports. Also had a 55-250 before but hardly used it so I sold it. I also have a Nissin Di622 II flash. Thanks!

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OK, given what you posted up there .....

You have conflicting goals and this is somewhat of a problem, mitigated to some extent by what you already own. Indoor sports want a wide aperture and some reach to a LOT of reach, depending on the sport and where you are when shooting. I will assume that "a lot of reach" is not part of the equation because if it is given your budget you're screwed.

So let's prioritize -- you can cover the indoor people and group shots with the 17-55 f/2.8 quite nicely. It slots right around your money goal. But, it's not THAT fast aperture wise. Is it the right choice anyway?

You have a fast 85mm prime, and if its enough for the sports on reach you're covered there. So I'd say at first blush go for a "normalish" lens in the prime range that's also fast to cover indoor portraiture and group shots; the obvious choices are the 28 f/1.8 and 35 f/2.0. I tried a 28mm that a friend owned a while back and didn't care for it though -- I was just not impressed with the IQ. It is fast and reasonably-priced, but I expected something akin to my 50mm/f1.4 in performance and didn't get it; as such I didn't buy one. Maybe it was a bad copy or I needed to microadjust it but that was my experience with it -- I had fairly high hopes as on a crop this would make a near-50mm equivalent (~45mm)

The 35mm/f2 is also IS, which means more money and IS does proportionately less for you in shorter focal lengths, but people want it and Canon is delivering it. I don't know anyone that has one of these yet -- so I have no idea how it performs. It seems to get good reviews.

The other obvious option is the 28/f2.8 IS which is pretty new too. But f/2.8 is not all that fast and what do you get out of it over the 17-55 other than FF compatibility which you are not interested in? Without going into "expensive as L" land (e.g. the 24mm or 35mm f/1.4) though, if you want good IQ that appears to be the trade-off in a prime.

Given that you have the 18-55 IS but don't use it I would consider selling that (even though it won't return all that much) and buying the 17-55 f/2.8. That fits within your price parameters, it covers the wide-to-mild-telephoto range, and it's quite fast. It also has excellent image quality. Your other options that actually obtain an advantage on a crop camera over the 17-55 f/2.8 are "L" primes and they blow your budget.


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Jan 14, 2013 10:44 |  #19

if you can handle the focal range, the tamron 28-75 is a fantastic lens on a crop. i had one and and supplemented it with a UWA (canon 10-22). served me quite well.


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Jan 15, 2013 06:37 |  #20

John from PA wrote in post #15486470 (external link)
It might help us make a better recommendation if we knew what you find lacking about the kit lens?

The focal length and slowness of the lens. I got a relatively inexpensive 18-135, it's good enough for outdoor shots. Got an 85mm, which works for some indoor sports mostly basketball. So, I'm looking something for those times I may need a faster lens to cover the wide-normal end of the spectrum. Just want some opinions on either going with a short prime or 17-5X/24-7X zoom. Btw, I only decided on getting an 85mm 1.8 after renting it for a basketball game.


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Jan 15, 2013 06:55 |  #21

tickerguy wrote in post #15486879 (external link)
OK, given what you posted up there .....

You have conflicting goals and this is somewhat of a problem, mitigated to some extent by what you already own.

Yes. The 85 1.8 which covers my indoor sports needs. So, the only gap for me is the fast wide-normal lens. I recall having some difficulty on the 18 almost not being wide enough.

I also considered the EFS 17-55 f/2.8, it's just too expensive here $1400!!! I may just have someone buy it for me in the US or go the Sigma route.


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Jan 15, 2013 07:53 as a reply to  @ jarrieta's post |  #22

If you can find a way to swing the Canon EFS 17-55 f/2.8, I can not recommend it enough.


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Jan 15, 2013 08:09 |  #23

drewconner wrote in post #15490951 (external link)
If you can find a way to swing the Canon EFS 17-55 f/2.8, I can not recommend it enough.

Okay thanks. Will see if I can find a way to get it at a good price, hopefully somewhere in the $800-900 range.


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Jan 15, 2013 08:12 |  #24

I recently got a t4i after selling all my dslr stuff a couple of years ago.

I bought a 85mm 1.8 and a 30mm sigma. Mr Inside and Mr Outside..

I will be mainly taking pictures of my two small children and I like a blurred background...




  
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Jan 19, 2013 19:11 |  #25

Finally decided on getting a 17-55. My sister going to the US in May. Will just order online.

Thank you for all your suggestions.


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