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Jan 14, 2013 16:54 |  #16

I think what you wanted to buy was the 5D Mark III it has different sports listed for the AF to track. If your doing any sports I would get the mark III. Landscapes or stills stick with the mark II. Both have great image quality.


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Jan 14, 2013 17:03 |  #17

f2.8 programmed in is fine for my 2.8 24-70mm L lens.
Will need to programme another preset with f1.2 for my f1.2 85mm L lens.
Having said that I've just used Av to programme C2 for aperture of f1.2 with my f1.2 lens on.
When I switch back to the f2.8 lens the camera changes to f2.8.
So that custom preset will do for both lens for sports as it automatically sets max aperture of whichever lens is on. Nice
PS I don't actually want it for sports. More to photograph my mad boxer dog jumping up for sticks :-)




  
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Jan 14, 2013 17:07 as a reply to  @ post 15488501 |  #18

Do you want to trade? I'll gladly swap my 60D with it's beginner modes in exchange for your 5D Mark II which has less crap for me to flip past on the dial when I'm going from Av or Tv to video mode.;)



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Jan 14, 2013 17:15 |  #19

ejackso1 wrote in post #15488635 (external link)
Do you want to trade? I'll gladly swap my 60D with it's beginner modes in exchange for your 5D Mark II which has less crap for me to flip past on the dial when I'm going from Av or Tv to video mode.;)

ha ha
I might have done, but now I know I have the best of both world in the form of Av, Tv etc plus 3 presets I can set up, then perhaps not.




  
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Jan 14, 2013 18:48 |  #20

Pobinr wrote in post #15487933 (external link)
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It would seem that for a sports mode one has to select P. Then press ISO button & roll the index finger wheel until 6400 selected. Then press ISO button again then roll index wheel to open the aperture to max. All a bit of a faff really !

Do you really shoot sports at ISO 6400 and wide open aperture? Even outdoors during the day? What kind of shutter speeds are you getting? That seems like overkill to me.


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Jan 14, 2013 18:49 |  #21

interesting observation.. i have had this camera for a while and i didn't realize it until this post..


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Jan 14, 2013 20:04 |  #22

msowsun wrote in post #15489029 (external link)
Do you really shoot sports at ISO 6400 and wide open aperture? Even outdoors during the day? What kind of shutter speeds are you getting? That seems like overkill to me.

I think the OP is still struggling with the idea of what the proper settings for action/sports should be. Personally, I set my C2 custom mode tailored to action using:

Tv
Shutter speed 1/800sec (for a starting point)
Auto ISO on 5D3, ISO 400 on 7D (for a starting point)
AI Servo
High speed continuous
Center point expanded AF points

I also set my C3 custom mode tailored specifically to shooting ice hockey at our local arena, where the exposure is pretty consistent across the ice:

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Shutter speed 1/1250sec
ISO 6400
f/4
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Jan 14, 2013 22:43 as a reply to  @ Scott M's post |  #23

I do agree with the OP in that good auto modes can be useful and when they work I will use them (e.g. my S95 has decent auto ISO in Av and TV modes - it actually chooses reasonable values). Unfortunately the 5DII's auto modes (auto and P) are a lot worse than my P&S, so in that regard a 'sports' mode would be really useless. Coupled with no useful auto ISO and you basically have a very basic camera in that regard - M, AV, TV and BULB.

Unfortunately Canon don't seem interested in putting good auto or semi-auto modes in higher end bodies, or even DSLRs in general - actually I'm not sure about the latest Rebels and 60D.

Can you use auto ISO effectively in AV or TV mode with the 5DIII - i.e. will it choose reasonable values for ISO and SS/Aperture?


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Jan 14, 2013 22:52 |  #24

If the "sports" mode was so important to you, why did you buy a camera without it? This forum is filled with posts by people seeking help on what purchase suits them best.

For example, I was recently torn between different purchases, so I rented the cameras before dropping 2 or 3 grand on them to make sure it was a good fit.

I'm not trying to be snobby, just making an observation.


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Jan 14, 2013 23:05 |  #25

JohnThomas wrote in post #15489974 (external link)
If the "sports" mode was so important to you, why did you buy a camera without it? This forum is filled with posts by people seeking help on what purchase suits them best.

For example, I was recently torn between different purchases, so I rented the cameras before dropping 2 or 3 grand on them to make sure it was a good fit.

I'm not trying to be snobby, just making an observation.

Yea, it's not exactly a sports camera anyway. Maybe a landscape or portrait mode, but sport mode on a 5DII would be taking the P*ss a little! Likely a 7D would be better, even in low light.


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Jan 15, 2013 06:15 |  #26

ejenner wrote in post #15489932 (external link)
Unfortunately Canon don't seem interested in putting good auto or semi-auto modes in higher end bodies, or even DSLRs in general - actually I'm not sure about the latest Rebels and 60D.

Can you use auto ISO effectively in AV or TV mode with the 5DIII - i.e. will it choose reasonable values for ISO and SS/Aperture?

Yes the 5D Mk III, 6D and 1Dx, 60D, and 7D all have pretty good auto ISO. Even the 5D Mk II works pretty good in Av or Tv modes. (just not Manual)


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Jan 15, 2013 07:37 |  #27

ejenner wrote in post #15489932 (external link)
Can you use auto ISO effectively in AV or TV mode with the 5DIII - i.e. will it choose reasonable values for ISO and SS/Aperture?

Auto ISO works pretty well on the 5D3. I use it for my C2 "action" customized mode in conjunction with Tv and the other settings I listed earlier in this thread.


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Jan 15, 2013 07:46 |  #28

Pobinr, something you need to be aware of when using the Cx dial settings.

If you switch to a registered Cx dial slot and then make changes as you are shooting, the camera reverts back to all the base settings you stored under the Cx slot originally if it goes to sleep or you power cycle it.

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Jan 15, 2013 09:12 |  #29

kenwood33 wrote in post #15489038 (external link)
interesting observation.. i have had this camera for a while and i didn't realize it until this post..

That seems like a very strange thing to forget. Looking in your bag occasionally might help you realize that you have a camera.


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Jan 15, 2013 09:37 as a reply to  @ tzalman's post |  #30

I try to take photos of sports in different light. I use M, Tv or Av as I find appropriate for the current subject and illumination. I don't see that there is one magic setting for action, a setting which will cover it all.


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