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Canon 10-22 vs tokina 11-16

 
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Jan 14, 2013 22:34 |  #1

Hi I was wondering which lens is better. If you can tell me which one and why, that would be really helpful ! Thanks !!
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Jan 14, 2013 22:48 |  #2

Build quality and Image quality wise, get the Canon.

for wide aperture and PRICE, get the Tokina.


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Jan 14, 2013 23:07 |  #3

FrostMonolith wrote in post #15489956 (external link)
Build quality and Image quality wise, get the Canon.

for wide aperture and PRICE, get the Tokina.

Really? Do explain, please?


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Jan 15, 2013 00:23 |  #4

FrostMonolith wrote in post #15489956 (external link)
Build quality and Image quality wise, get the Canon.

for wide aperture and PRICE, get the Tokina.

The tokina has much better external build. No idea about internals. It is also a bit sharper.

However, the Canon has much better flare resistance, a much more useful range, better AF, less CA and less distortion.

I recommend the Canon for general and landscape use, and the Tokina for indoor/astrophotograph​y.


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Jan 15, 2013 00:33 |  #5

Sirrith wrote in post #15490201 (external link)
The tokina has much better external build. No idea about internals. It is also a bit sharper.

However, the Canon has much better flare resistance, a much more useful range, better AF, less CA and less distortion.

I recommend the Canon for general and landscape use, and the Tokina for indoor/astrophotograph​y.

IIRC when I was researching what UWA to get on crop; the Tokina won on distortion.

Tokina 11-16 ++ speed/sharpness/distor​tion/build/price/warra​nty

Canon 10-22 ++ range/AF (~irrelevant on these focal lengths on crop)/MFD/Flare/and I don't recall CA; but likely as they seem to have better coatings than third party.

Which to get is what matters to you. If you want to shoot handheld indoors; the Tokina wins I think. (Parties, museums). The canon wins if you don't like flare.


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Jan 15, 2013 01:05 |  #6

w0m wrote in post #15490231 (external link)
IIRC when I was researching what UWA to get on crop; the Tokina won on distortion.


AF (~irrelevant on these focal lengths on crop

I'm going based on photozone's review of the 2 lenses, on there the Canon at 10mm has 1.2% distortion vs the Tokina's 2.1%.

I disagree about the AF. Its not the AF speed that matters, its the USM vs micro-motor. I am always switching between MF and AF on UWAs, USM allows me to do this without fiddling with any additional switches, whereas the tokina needs the whole focus ring to be pulled back with their silly clutch mechanism.


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Jan 15, 2013 01:19 |  #7

lol. I like the silly clutch mechanism.




  
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Jan 15, 2013 02:27 |  #8

w0m wrote in post #15490231 (external link)
IIRC when I was researching what UWA to get on crop; the Tokina won on distortion.

Tokina 11-16 ++ speed/sharpness/distor​tion/build/price/warra​nty

Canon 10-22 ++ range/AF (~irrelevant on these focal lengths on crop)/MFD/Flare/and I don't recall CA; but likely as they seem to have better coatings than third party.

Which to get is what matters to you. If you want to shoot handheld indoors; the Tokina wins I think. (Parties, museums). The canon wins if you don't like flare.

Do you have a Tokina 11-16? or have you used either before? Your comments were helpful thank you ;D




  
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Jan 15, 2013 02:29 |  #9

Sirrith wrote in post #15490329 (external link)
I'm going based on photozone's review of the 2 lenses, on there the Canon at 10mm has 1.2% distortion vs the Tokina's 2.1%.

I disagree about the AF. Its not the AF speed that matters, its the USM vs micro-motor. I am always switching between MF and AF on UWAs, USM allows me to do this without fiddling with any additional switches, whereas the tokina needs the whole focus ring to be pulled back with their silly clutch mechanism.

Hey thank you for the replies it was helpful. I just went to check out the photozone site and its pretty awesome. thanks for sharing that with me :] Do you have any personal experience with either lens ?




  
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Jan 15, 2013 02:50 |  #10

lilbunny wrote in post #15490464 (external link)
Hey thank you for the replies it was helpful. I just went to check out the photozone site and its pretty awesome. thanks for sharing that with me :] Do you have any personal experience with either lens ?

I own the Canon :)

I had to choose between the Tokina and Canon myself, and because I do a lot of shots with strong light sources in the frame, as well as not needing f2.8, and wanting more range and better AF, I went with the Canon.

The following shots might or might not have produced flare with the Tokina. I just know the flare was extremely well controlled with the Canon:

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This one does have flare, though I had 3 filters stacked in front of the lens so I'm not sure if the flare was from them or the lens itself:
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Jan 15, 2013 03:02 |  #11

Good stuff guys! I'm in the same boat as the OP'er, but I added the Sigma 10-20mm f4-5.6 into the mix. It's so hard to pick between the three!


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Jan 15, 2013 03:33 |  #12

Sirrith wrote in post #15490488 (external link)
I own the Canon :)

I had to choose between the Tokina and Canon myself, and because I do a lot of shots with strong light sources in the frame, as well as not needing f2.8, and wanting more range and better AF, I went with the Canon.

WOW Tom ! :O !! those are some amazing pictures ! I would like to be able to take some beautiful pictures someday. Its such a tough choice between the two. How long have you been into photography?




  
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Jan 15, 2013 04:21 |  #13

I own both and what Tom says is correct. I keep the 11-16 just for astro shots, for everything else the Canon is my tool of choice - because it has a better range, near-identical sharpness, slightly better CA and hugely better flare handling.

The only advantages the 11-16 has are price, aperture (which is normally meaningless as far as DoF is concerned on an UWA) and build quality (which may be important if you intend to use the lens as a hockey puck).


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Jan 15, 2013 05:49 |  #14

lilbunny wrote in post #15490531 (external link)
WOW Tom ! :O !! those are some amazing pictures ! I would like to be able to take some beautiful pictures someday. Its such a tough choice between the two. How long have you been into photography?

Thank you :)

I got my first SLR about 12 years ago, but only really got serious about it 3 years ago.

Anyway, to reiterate:
If you want a lens for general use, the Canon is the one to get. If you want a specialised lens for interior shots and night sky shots, the Tokina is the better choice. Frank has both, so I'd listen to him more than me since I only have the Canon.


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Jan 15, 2013 06:53 |  #15

I have the Tokina and love it. The 2.8 is nice, even if its not a HUGE improvement over the canon at F3.5 @ 10mm. It is enough for me.

I dont go shooting large landscapes at night but I do like to shoot candids of people at night without flash. You really need a faster lens than 2.8, but the Tokina does fine and helps you get the people as well as part of the scene in the frame without having to back yourself up into a small corner.


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