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indefinite_pronoun
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Jan 12, 2013 15:16 |  #1

Hi all,

I'd love to get some feedback on the image below. In particular, thoughts on improvements to the composition and processing would be great. When I shot this, I was particularly taken by the violence and texture of the waves contrasted with the smooth, slowly flowing fog coming over the hills. But I am not sure if the picture conveys those thoughts to anyone but me.

Thanks in advance!


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Jan 12, 2013 16:25 |  #2

Good shot...would be better if it was shot in RAW and you were able to pull back the overexposed areas,


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Jan 12, 2013 21:51 |  #3

chauncey wrote in post #15479919 (external link)
Good shot...would be better if it was shot in RAW and you were able to pull back the overexposed areas,

Thanks for the exposure advice, chauncey. There's plenty of highlight headroom left in the Raw file, so I performed a slight burn of the sunlit clouds and slightly pulled back highlights globally. Improvement?

Any other thoughts from the forum members on composition or processing would be greatly appreciated.


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Jan 12, 2013 22:22 |  #4

I actually like the strong highlights on the water, so IMO, the first image is better. Very surreal shot.



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Jan 13, 2013 06:20 as a reply to  @ mannetti21's post |  #5

Like the first one better.


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Jan 13, 2013 12:19 |  #6

Prefer the first one aswel, just burn the localised area of cloud on top of the hill slightly and leave the rest of the image as is




  
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Jan 13, 2013 20:51 as a reply to  @ geoffh860's post |  #7

first ones is best and ya great capture i can see what you where trying to tell with the picture... if you where able capture this shot with a sky with clouds with early sunrise or late sunset colors this would be amazing....


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Jan 13, 2013 23:55 as a reply to  @ geoffh860's post |  #8

I think it does convey your idea, especially with the wisps of clouds. I think you also captured the line of the wave just right - leading into the hill crest. Nicely balanced comp.

There's a lot of nice movement - both left-to-right and right-to-left.

Honestly can see anything obvious to improve.


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Jan 14, 2013 19:29 |  #9

Thanks for the comments and suggestions.

bartc, I agree that some colorful clouds would add some drama to the image -- I'll certainly try to return to this spot in the future and hope for more interesting weather. On this day I was just happy that the thick fog at ground level dissipated as the sun rose!

To those who commented on the exposure adjustments, I'll continue to play around with local exposure tweaks.

One other question (in case anyone is still interested in commenting): in the posted image, I have adjusted WB to largely remove the strong blue cast of the shaded early morning light and bring out a bit of red in the sky. My chosen WB results in the blue-grey water seen here, rather than the very blue water that the camera's AWB produced. Any thoughts on what white balance you would choose for this shot?

Any other criticism or comments are always welcome, of course.




  
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Jan 14, 2013 20:35 |  #10

That's a good shot! I love the texture in the water.


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Jan 14, 2013 21:23 as a reply to  @ rivas8409's post |  #11

out of curiosity, were you shooting this with any sort of filter?

nice capture. i vote #1. really like it actually.




  
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Jan 15, 2013 07:21 |  #12

The only thing I might try is removing some of the sky. If the sky had some detail or nice color then it would be fine, but it doesnt add much for me.

The waves and the mist are beautiful though. Nice job.


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Jan 15, 2013 15:42 |  #13

t3ichef, no, I didn't use a filter for this shot. (I did use a 4-stop ND to get long exposures on some other shots at this location, but not on this shot.) Settings were 50 mm, f/8, 1/250 s.

adamfarl, I see your point about the sky. I'll try cropping out about half of the sky above the hilltops.

Thanks for the suggestions.




  
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Jan 15, 2013 22:03 |  #14

indefinite_pronoun wrote in post #15489225 (external link)
One other question (in case anyone is still interested in commenting): in the posted image, I have adjusted WB to largely remove the strong blue cast of the shaded early morning light and bring out a bit of red in the sky. My chosen WB results in the blue-grey water seen here, rather than the very blue water that the camera's AWB produced. Any thoughts on what white balance you would choose for this shot?

I'm not sure, but I will say that I'm not afraid to mix up WB - i.e. have 2 different WB for the same shot if you think it works. This often happens in shadows which look much bluer than our eyes see as we automatically and almost instantaneously compensate. I know some pro landscape photog do this quite a bit.

Usually it is either an easy blend (you can draw a mask and then just smooth it), or some raw converters allow local changes.

It's not bad as is though - the water has enough texture than I'm not sure it needs much color as well - might be a little too much.


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Jan 15, 2013 22:05 |  #15

I am new and therefore I have no critique, but I want to say that this is a beautiful photo...wow!


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