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Jan 15, 2013 16:51 |  #31

I've seen some interesting views on the forum as well. Sometimes it is hard to think outside of the box. New alternate ideas are automatically rejected for no reason other than they are new.

Overall we're usually far too concerned with sharpness and far too unconcerned with lighting and composition. We're interested in cameras, not photography it seems.


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Jan 15, 2013 16:54 |  #32

n1as wrote in post #15493085 (external link)
Overall we're usually far too concerned with sharpness and far too unconcerned with lighting and composition. We're interested in cameras, not photography it seems.

on the GEAR section of the forums, sure. That's why it's called "Equipment Talk"! :)


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Jan 15, 2013 16:56 |  #33

n1as wrote in post #15493085 (external link)
Overall we're usually far too concerned with sharpness and far too unconcerned with lighting and composition.

Very good point. And "guilty."


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Jan 15, 2013 18:30 |  #34

Pepe Guitarra wrote in post #15492822 (external link)
The way it goes, it will be the number of ART lenses you have.

:lol:

I like my f4 lenses and faster than f2.8 yet shorter than 200mm primes. They go together nicely :)


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Jan 15, 2013 18:40 |  #35

uOpt wrote in post #15491816 (external link)
Just idle thoughts (home sick/flu):


Another one, #2:

How is it that everybody gets all hyper about a single f-stop when it comes to upgrading zoom lenses from f/4 to the f/2.8 bag pigs, perfectly willing to hire mules and sherpas and look like a dork on the street...

....while the same improvement of a single f-stop is tossed as "not required" when discussing upgrading the f/2.8 zooms to f/2.0 primes.


Anybody has similar observations?

I think that one stop may not always be as valuable as another. For example, going from f/8 (telephoto + TC combo) to an f/5.6 lens is a really important stop on a lot of Canon bodies because it is the difference between AF or not.

Also on the 'light gathering' continuum, a change from say f/5.6 to f/4 as a maximum aperture may be more important than a change from f/2 to f/1.4 as the DOF at those very large apertures may not be usable.

So the faster the absolute fastest aperture of a lens, the less situations that having the lens wide open for will be usable. I probably use f/2.8 a lot more than f/1.2 overall.


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Jan 15, 2013 20:07 |  #36

tkbslc wrote in post #15493104 (external link)
on the GEAR section of the forums, sure. That's why it's called "Equipment Talk"! :)

Very good point and Guilty :)


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Jan 15, 2013 20:24 |  #37

tkbslc wrote in post #15492828 (external link)
I like dogs, but I refuse to walk around town holding a bag of poop.

This +1000000000


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Jan 15, 2013 20:29 |  #38

tkbslc wrote in post #15492828 (external link)
I like dogs, but I refuse to walk around town holding a bag of poop.

Thats what the camera bag is for :)


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Jan 15, 2013 20:57 |  #39

Wilt wrote in post #15492056 (external link)
  • "I am not a wimp, only wimps complain about weight and bulk"

+1 brother!

Oh, wait.


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Jan 15, 2013 21:31 |  #40

shaneotool wrote in post #15492110 (external link)
everyone seems to need a full frame camera and L glass to shoot crummy pictures of their cats.

ed rader wrote in post #15492134 (external link)
and snotty nose offspring ;)!

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and dogs :D

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Jan 15, 2013 21:46 |  #41

anscochrome wrote in post #15492903 (external link)
What drives me nuts is somebody will post about a malfunctioning camera or lens, a thousand (non camera repair technicians) will throw up a wild guess, a week later the camera is finally sent off to Canon or another repair facility. Why waste the time and the wait for responses on a forum, when it could have been on its way to being repaired days before the response wait time?

And just as many..no, more times.. it's not a "malfunctioning" camera.

re: LightRules :lol:


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Jan 15, 2013 21:54 |  #42

uOpt wrote in post #15491816 (external link)
Just idle thoughts (home sick/flu):

Let's see, here's #1:

That the 200mm f/2.0 is forum praised as the ultimate portrait lens (on FF) and that it is "obviously" worth going through the trouble of creating the required space towards the subject...

... while every time that the subject of the 135 f/2.0 for 1.6x crop users comes up it is shut down with "way too long".


Another one, #2:

How is it that everybody gets all hyper about a single f-stop when it comes to upgrading zoom lenses from f/4 to the f/2.8 bag pigs, perfectly willing to hire mules and sherpas and look like a dork on the street...

....while the same improvement of a single f-stop is tossed as "not required" when discussing upgrading the f/2.8 zooms to f/2.0 primes.


Anybody has similar observations?

Since when is the big ass 200 f/2 praised as the ultimate portrait lens?


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Jan 16, 2013 01:25 |  #43

well then what are your thoughts on the guys who spend 2k on a lens only to shoot charts of numbers and squiggly lines or batteries and then complain instead of taking the lens out and taking some real shots then see how the lens performs? thoughts?


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Jan 16, 2013 01:28 |  #44

cdifoto wrote in post #15494229 (external link)
Since when is the big ass 200 f/2 praised as the ultimate portrait lens?

Yeah, I think all of these are one-off examples.


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Jan 16, 2013 01:29 |  #45

ROGERWILCO357 wrote in post #15494766 (external link)
well then what are your thoughts on the guys who spend 2k on a lens only to shoot charts of numbers and squiggly lines or batteries and then complain instead of taking the lens out and taking some real shots then see how the lens performs? thoughts?

They like to play with cameras and it's their money. Some guys buy a nice car and keep in the shed under a cover to keep it mint. Who am I to say that is wrong. There are a million ways to enjoy this hobby and a million ways to spend your money. None of my biz either way.


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