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Jan 15, 2013 11:48 |  #1696

Bobster wrote in post #15487276 (external link)
Ok so back from FoCal HQ - the 6D has had a firmware update since i visited and results are promising

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iituner wrote in post #15488623 (external link)
menu looks like on 1DX & 5DmkIII I think, and will work just as well :)

emdzey01 wrote in post #15489785 (external link)
Using a 5d2; is there any way i can put a shortcut for Flash exposure compensation and A:B ratios?

It's a pain to have to go to External Speedlite Control > Flash Function Settings > Wireless set just to be able to adjust the ratio.

Agree, it's a pain. One solution appears to be - buy a 6D, 1DX or 5DII! ;)

This menu appears to be the flash equivalent of the Quick Control Panel, which I find useful. It seems to be a great Canon addition.


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Jan 15, 2013 16:32 |  #1697

Very soon will be a new 70D.
I think there will be the same control panel :)
you can save a bit by buying the quick menu :))


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Jan 15, 2013 17:19 |  #1698

CliveyBoy wrote in post #15488846 (external link)
I can understand that! We don't need to see any images, but you do, to know what actually works. We are happy to take your word, if you seem to have followed appropriate test methods. Thanks.

i had YN568EX on B and Canon 580EX on A, the ratio worked

HSS works

dialing in - and + to the flash compensation, works

Manual flashes work - YN-560II (not HSS)


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Jan 15, 2013 17:37 |  #1699

Bobster wrote in post #15493206 (external link)
i had YN568EX on B and Canon 580EX on A, the ratio worked

HSS works

dialing in - and + to the flash compensation, works

Manual flashes work - YN-560II (not HSS)

thanks for confirming support of TTL mode!
but
what about the other modes?
manual mode with YN-568EX from the camera menu and manual control in the wireless mode?


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Jan 15, 2013 20:14 as a reply to  @ post 15445924 |  #1700

Samgoit wrote in post #15445539 (external link)
The Sony NEX-6 has a standard ISO hot shoe. Any idea if the triggers would fire Canon speedlites in full manual? Or any reason I shouldn't try it?

Thanks

CliveyBoy wrote in post #15445800 (external link)
The YN-622C can be used on a Nikon camera to fire Nikon Speedlights. I expect that your situation would also work. The 622 is intelligent, and behaves nicely, so I would try it.

I tried it tonight --- full manual, off camera, works like a charm. 622s will trigger a 580EXII from an NEX-6. I'm rather happy about it, too. Thanks.




  
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Jan 15, 2013 21:28 |  #1701

iituner wrote in post #15488623 (external link)
menu looks like on 1DX & 5DmkIII
I think, and will work just as well :)

Lianggc posted a couple of days ago the menu is the same as the 5DIII

"As I know´╝îExternal flash control menu of 6d is the same as 5D mark iii"


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Jan 15, 2013 22:39 |  #1702

amphoto11 wrote in post #15490571 (external link)
You cant, you need two receiver.
What is high sync mode, sorry?

What flashes are you using?
On which camera?
To get an answer you need to provide more information about the equipment used.

i was thinking of a splitter for pc cable to the flashes.

my camera is 60D
flash are 580ex1 in manual mode.
( so i just need it to be triggered )

high speed mode allows the flash to be sync at 1/8000 or something like that
Its NOT HSS.




  
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Jan 16, 2013 02:20 |  #1703

maximme wrote in post #15494396 (external link)
i was thinking of a splitter for pc cable to the flashes.
my camera is 60D
flash are 580ex1 in manual mode.
high speed mode allows the flash to be sync at 1/8000 or something like that. Its NOT HSS.

HSS mode is the only over-x-sync mode available on Canon cameras. The YN-622C (and some other triggers) can use the pre-shutter signal produced by the camera in HSS mode to produce a "supersync" for strobes, etc.

What about:
60D in HSS mode + 622
2 x (622 + pc-sync cable + 580EX in manual mode).

This will fire both 580EX in pre-shutter sync (supersync), and the lighting will depend on whether the flash burn time lasts long enough.

If the flashes are mounted directly on the 622s, they will automatically use HSS (flat light).

There are PC-sync cable splitters so only 2 x 622s would be needed, if you are brave.

You may find "The Other YN-622C User Guide" of help - link is in my signature.


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Jan 16, 2013 07:42 |  #1704

maximme wrote in post #15494396 (external link)
i was thinking of a splitter for pc cable to the flashes.

my camera is 60D
flash are 580ex1 in manual mode.
( so i just need it to be triggered )

high speed mode allows the flash to be sync at 1/8000 or something like that
Its NOT HSS.

Remember that "Hyper Sync" and "Super Sync" are hacks that require two things. A) a trigger that can fool the camera into offering the early sync signal used for HSS with speedlites.
B) a light source that has sufficient tail burn to create a light source that is long enough to illuminate the subject during the shutter slit travel across the sensor.

Speedlites, because of their power control technology only offer a tail when fired at full power. All other power setting chop the power from the capacitor, eliminating the tail.

The best monolights to use when attempting "Super Sync" are those with relatively long T5 durations, which will get even longer as the power is reduced. That makes higher powered units better because they can be used at less than half power. And, the monolight will offer less than half its nominal power setting as light to illuminate the subject when using this technique.


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Jan 16, 2013 08:21 |  #1705

Does anyone now if these are compatible with Metz 58-AF2 flash guns?


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Jan 16, 2013 08:29 |  #1706

F-Stran wrote in post #15495376 (external link)
Does anyone now if these are compatible with Metz 58-AF2 flash guns?

Partially. Many settings have to be done on the flash rather than through the camera's flash menu. See Clive's manual, flash compatibility section:

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Jan 16, 2013 09:52 |  #1707

F-Stran wrote in post #15495376 (external link)
Does anyone now if these are compatible with Metz 58-AF2 flash guns?

oldvultureface wrote in post #15495401 (external link)
Partially. Many settings have to be done on the flash rather than through the camera's flash menu. See Clive's manual, flash compatibility section:
https://docs.google.co​m …FpqNkpBYXBHajA/​edit?pli=1 (external link)

One of the users in the forum club.foto.ru reported full compatibility Metz 58-AF2 and Metz 48-AF2
Personally, I did not check.


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Jan 16, 2013 14:46 as a reply to  @ iituner's post |  #1708

Got my second set of YN-622's today. The metal foot is not mounted straight on the units. I checked my first set and they are off too.
Of the four units I picket the straightest of them and market it for transmitter use in the camera hotshoe. The AF beam shows up in the center of the viewfinder, so the transmitter unit is fine. For the receivers it is not a major problem as they will be mounted on brackets that can be rotated, but it is a bit annoying.

Anyone else experienced this? Is it fixable by opening them and realign the foot or is everything glued together?




  
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Jan 16, 2013 15:52 as a reply to  @ tron's post |  #1709

Received my two sets today (to replace my 603's), to be used with a couple of Jessops 360AFDC's:

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I've only had a quick play, but so far it is looking quite good. (I'll admit I'm still learning flash photography and as yet don't fully understand the terms). The camera (7D) talks to the flashes, in that it sets the zoom, ISO, f and power as it would if it sat directly on the hot shoe. Through the 622's, new menus have appeared on the camera:

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A quick look at CliveyBoy's other manual has determined that I can use this flash as ETTL or Manual through the 622's and can use 2nd curtain, as well as FEB and A:B ratios.

Feel free to add the Jessops 360AFDC to the compatibility list - is there a set of test I would need to try ?

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Jan 16, 2013 16:44 |  #1710

I wanted to confirm that I have used the 622Cs with Eneloop XX batteries, and they have fired now for around 700 shots (all of them with flashes, mostly ETTL) spanning 6 days (and with the eneloop pre-charge from factory) without requiring recharge.

I'm going to recharge the batteries just in case, just so I don't need to change them in the middle of a session tomorrow, but the battery response is very good, IMHO.

Maybe someone can confirm how much time / pictures spanned from full charge to depletion so I don't charge my batteries ahead of time. Thanks,

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