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Jan 20, 2013 08:09 |  #1726

This afternoon i'm going to photograph a short film made by friend.
I'll take some "official" shots of the cast in some scenes.
I'm carrying with me three 622c.
I have rechargeables on them, just recharged.
I measured 1.42-1.45V on single batteries as soon I take them off from the recharger.
I'm going to check how many shoots I can do this afternoon and I will take a voltage reading with multimeter after I finish the shooting.
Hope it will help :)


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Jan 20, 2013 13:30 |  #1727

patrick023 wrote in post #15507163 (external link)
Can anyone confirm how these work with the Canon 270EX II?

Clive's guide lists the 270EX as a class 3 flash but does not list the II version.

Hi,

I have tested the 622C system with a 5DMkIII and a 270EXII; all functions work (ETTL, Manual 1/1 down to 1/64, HS Sync, FEC, FEB). The only thing you do not get is confirmation of settings via the double-flash of the remote 622C auto-focus aid LED. This lack of feedback apparently occurs because the 270EXII does not have its own auto-focus LED, if enabled it simply gives you annoying multiple flashes to help auto-focus.

I've e-Mailed Clive the results of my tests.

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Jan 20, 2013 13:37 |  #1728

I had a problem with my receivers last week. The receivers where on and where giving a red or green light. But they didn't fire the flash. So I replaced the batteries and it worked again. I didn't know what was wrong I tried everything before I changed the batteries. I didn't know they gave light when there was almost no power left.


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Jan 20, 2013 14:33 |  #1729

Bonbridge wrote in post #15512285 (external link)
I had a problem with my receivers last week. The receivers where on and where giving a red or green light. But they didn't fire the flash. So I replaced the batteries and it worked again. I didn't know what was wrong I tried everything before I changed the batteries. I didn't know they gave light when there was almost no power left.

My recollection it that that's the low voltage warning indication.

I think there is a post by Clive earlier that states the low warning specifically.


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Jan 20, 2013 16:03 |  #1730

Thanks! But it was not winking. The two receivers where red, but the transmitter was green if I remember it right. Don't know what that exactly means?
It is pretty frustrating if you are in a shoot and the flashes doesn't work.


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Jan 20, 2013 16:31 |  #1731

Bonbridge wrote in post #15512825 (external link)
Thanks! But it was not winking. The two receivers where red, but the transmitter was green if I remember it right. Don't know what that exactly means?
It is pretty frustrating if you are in a shoot and the flashes doesn't work.

The indicators were normal transmission.

We now know that if you start a 622 with batteries which are already under the 2.2volt cutoff point, the low-battery warning may not be activated, and you get unstable behaviour. The photog has to have a meticulous battery-handling regime.

From "The Other....Guide":
Status Indicator
· Power-up/self-test/initializing - red flash for several seconds, plus selected CH and GP indicators.
· Standby - steady red.
· Battery low – on startup or half-shutter; Status will rapidly wink Red/Green, and the CH and GP indicators will dimly wink also. If the voltage is too low (defined in firmware as total 2.2 volts), the 622 will turn off automatically.
· 622 Transmitter communicating – green wink.
· 622 Receiver communicating – red wink.


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Jan 20, 2013 16:35 |  #1732

GusWanner wrote in post #15512268 (external link)
I've e-Mailed Clive the results of my tests.
Gus Wanner

Thanks, Gus. My computer has been down for a day. (A memory bank has now been replaced.) I'll respond when I've caught up.


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Jan 20, 2013 16:44 |  #1733

amphoto11 wrote in post #15511215 (external link)
I have rechargeables on them, just recharged. I measured 1.42-1.45V on single batteries as soon I take them off from the recharger. I'm going to check how many shoots I can do this afternoon and I will take a voltage reading with multimeter after I finish the shooting. :)

The batteries need to be under load when tested. You will see that not-yet-settled reading dive down to nearer 1.35. Re-test 24 hours later and see s further drop.

With just-used batteries, the voltage tends to bounce back up a bit, but there is no amperage in it, and under load they quickly drop to its effective voltage.

I use a 27-ohm load. It is enough to give stable readings, and reveal a failing battery.


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Jan 20, 2013 17:10 |  #1734

My quick battery tester -


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Jan 21, 2013 00:15 |  #1735

Well, I can confirm now that I have shot over 1000 shots (in about 3 sessions of 6 hours each) and the Eneloop 2500 mAh are still running without being charged once (they were used with what pre-charge the came from factory).

I have some minor issues when the background is too far away and does not get hit by either flash (in large assembly plants, for instance) where the flash ratio does not seem to work and I get a full frontal fill flash (I assume trying to reach the background). I have yet to change the metering mode of the flash, that may help under this conditions, but Manual is always a possibility.

I am happy with the 622s, work much better than what I expected.

The one thing I am not ultra happy with is the Focus Assist beam... the dots instead of lines are less than ideal, and while it is too high at closer than 1.5 metes, at about 10 meters it gets too low... so it is more or less centered but not ideal for a lot of situations.

I'll make a more decent report in the days to come, thanks again for all the info here,
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Jan 21, 2013 02:26 |  #1736

RafaPolit wrote in post #15514307 (external link)
...The one thing I am not ultra happy with is the Focus Assist beam... the dots instead of lines are less than ideal, and while it is too high at closer than 1.5 metes, at about 10 meters it gets too low... so it is more or less centered but not ideal for a lot of situations.

Official information from Yongnuo:
AF assist is set to the distance of 3-5 meters.
Source: http://www.shanzhuobos​hi.com/blog/2012/12/28​/26551.html (external link)

Unfortunately, to create uncompromising solution is not easy.
The size and position of the AF assist grid is also dependent on the focal length of the lens used and the type of sensor (FF / APS-H / APS-C)


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Jan 21, 2013 15:59 |  #1737

Visitors during the weekend had a 6D with them. They allowed me to test it with the YN-622Cs.

I love the quick panel style external flash controls. Much faster to use. I used 580EXII, 430EXII, 550EX and YN568EX to test functions.

Flash mode, Shutter sync, FEB, FEC, FEL, E-TTL mode, Zoom, Wireless modes (Optical/Off), Master flash disable, channel, firing groups, Ratios and AF-assist beam all worked as expected.

The only gap was the modelling light. I couldn't find a depth-of-field button, and there were no results from a Guide search for "modelling". A later study of the user guide showed that the depth-of-field button was now on the other side of the lens mount! There is a reference to "modeling" (sic) which implied that the facility was in fact available, but I was out of time to test. The visitors finally wrenched the 6D from my grasp.

It is a full Class 1 Flash pass, with praise for the much improved menu interface. ("The Other...Guide" will be updated to show the quick flash control panel.)


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Jan 21, 2013 17:22 |  #1738

CliveyBoy wrote in post #15516825 (external link)
...with praise for the much improved menu interface. ("The Other...Guide" will be updated to show the quick flash control panel.)

Will be interested to see the quick flash control panel. Wonder why the 5DIII is missing that feature. Maybe something for them to add in a firmware update. :-)


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Jan 21, 2013 19:38 |  #1739

dmward wrote in post #15517165 (external link)
Will be interested to see the quick flash control panel. Wonder why the 5DIII is missing that feature. Maybe something for them to add in a firmware update. :-)

Version 3.06 is now up. It has the 6D menus, and also moves the 270EXII to Class 1 thanks to Gus Wanner.


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Jan 22, 2013 11:48 |  #1740

dmward wrote in post #15517165 (external link)
Will be interested to see the quick flash control panel. Wonder why the 5DIII is missing that feature. Maybe something for them to add in a firmware update. :-)

Hi David,
The 5DMKIII has the same quick flash control panel as the 6D, but it is not directly selectable under My Menu. You can select External Speedlite control under My Menu from which you can then select Flash function settings to get to the quick flash control panel. It would be great to be able to go directly to the quick flash control panel from My Menu, but to the best of my knowledge, this can't be done on the 5DMkIII.
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