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Jan 21, 2013 11:48 |  #1

i know that there are (or were) a lot of shooters with the 5Dii and a 7D. this combo gave them the best of both worlds in terms of action shooting and for more sedentary subjects...

are there many photographers out there (professional or otherwise) who use one of the Rebel bodies with their 5Dii or 5Diii?

im just curious if that combo is something most people just dont get into....


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Jan 21, 2013 12:00 |  #2

I currently use a pair of 7Ds and a 5DII together. Earlier I used (and still have as backup) 50Ds alongside 5DII.

I'm sure there's someone out there who uses one of the Rebels, perhaps as a cheaper body primarily for use on long telephotos or as a lighter alternative when they don't want to haul around a larger kit. The IQ of the latest Rebel 18MP models is virtually identical to the IQ of the 7D (and 60D).

Personally the main reason I'd be reluctant to use the two together is the control layout of the Rebel series is so different. If switching back and forth a lot and/or quickly, quite different controls might cause you to make errors or pause while trying to remember which is which.

I never actually had a problem switching back and forth between the 5DII and 50D, but did worry that the image erase button on the 5DII and image replay button on 50D are in the same location, and vice versa. (I use the "set" button for image playback on my cameras, so this really was a non-issue for me.) The other control that sometimes gave me pause was the top LCD illumination button, which is on opposite ends of the top button array on 5DII and 50D. 7D and 5DII are more similarly laid out, except of course the 7D's are more customizable and it has some additional controls for the more sophisticated AF system.

Also, 7D and 5DII share the same memory cards (CF), batteries (LP-E6) and chargers. 50D uses a different battery (BP511/511A) and charger. Rebels use different batteries (LLP-E8), chargers and memory cards (SD). 60D shares battery/charger with 5DII, but uses different memory (SD). 5DIII uses both types of memory (dual slot: CF & SD), and same battery/charger as 60D, 7D and 5DII.


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Jan 21, 2013 12:03 |  #3

I had a 5D2, 7D and a T2i and sold the 5D2 and 7D both to finance a 5D3 and use the T2i (550D) as a backup. It was a good combo and I got some great photos from it. The only downfall was the difference in the ergonomics and I kept having to think too long to get the settings with the 4 way switch as opposed to the rear dial of the 5D3 and 7D. I decided to get a 60D as a second body and gave the T2i to the wife when she showed an interest in photography and then I eventually swapped the 60D for another 7D. There was something about my first 7D that I didn't get on with, focus and exposure would change on its own accord, but the 7D I have now is spot on. No issues at all really, the only thing that could be better is the noise handling in higher ISO settings. The wife updated the T2i to a t4i (650D) when they were first released and I eventually sold the T2i as it was getting no more use but I've used the T4i as a backup on occasions and while I still found it fiddly with the controls it's a very good camera.

They are both a great combo for birding and wildlife as you have 2 fast focussing bodies and both are more than capable of taking excellent photos. They are also handy if you want to maximise your focal lengths from primes as the crop factor acts like having an extra lens all the time.


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Jan 21, 2013 12:19 |  #4

Not to hijack the thread, but does anyone have a full frame and then use a crop camera as a second camera for events, such as Sweet 16's, etc.? The reason I'm asking is because I'd like to upgrade to a 6D soon, and I was wondering what combos people use in terms of lenses for a FF & crop body. Would one put the normal length zoom on the FF and then a longer lens, such as the 135L on the crop?




  
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Jan 21, 2013 13:48 |  #5

Ltdave wrote in post #15515758 (external link)
i know that there are (or were) a lot of shooters with the 5Dii and a 7D. this combo gave them the best of both worlds in terms of action shooting and for more sedentary subjects...

are there many photographers out there (professional or otherwise) who use one of the Rebel bodies with their 5Dii or 5Diii?

im just curious if that combo is something most people just dont get into....

I went from a 7D, to a 7D and a 5DC, after the 7D mostly collected dust in the time I had the 5DC, I decided to go 100% full frame and sold everything for a 5D3.

The 5D3 is better than the 7D in basically every way other than the max frame rate (6fps vs. 8fps), which for what I gained in other areas I was ok with losing.


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Jan 21, 2013 14:13 |  #6

We bought a 1DX for Christmas and kept the 60D as a backup. Wifey refuses to use the 60D any more, so I use the Rebel when she is using the FF or whenver I want the extra reach with the crop. Our good lenses were already L lenses, so we pretty much use the same lenses for either. I will be looking at the 14-24 if/when that comes out though


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Jan 21, 2013 14:19 |  #7

I had the 7D first and picked up the MkII later but I would think that these days with the image quality between a xxxD and xxD or even 7D being identical, your really talking about what feature set you want your camera to support. I think that the 7D is a popular choice because it addresses a significant weakness of the 5D, the AF system.


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Jan 21, 2013 14:51 |  #8

gjl711 wrote in post #15516347 (external link)
I had the 7D first and picked up the MkII later but I would think that these days with the image quality between a xxxD and xxD or even 7D being identical, your really talking about what feature set you want your camera to support. I think that the 7D is a popular choice because it addresses a significant weakness of the 5D, the AF system.

This was true until the mkIII ;)


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Jan 21, 2013 16:06 |  #9

I have a %DC and T2i, like them both. I tend to use the Rebel for sports oriented work where I need reach or if I plan to crop a lot. Also the t2i is so small and easy to carry it's great for hiking. The 5D is my go to for people and most landscape shots. I often carry the T2i with the longer lens at a sporting event and my 5D with an 85 or 17-40 for people or crowd shots.


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Jan 21, 2013 18:00 |  #10

I have a 5Dc and a new T4i. Like the combination a great deal. The 5Dc is great for landscape, portrait and still life. The new Rebel is my sports and action camera, as well as my grab-and-go shooter. Also planning to use the Rebel as a backup when shooting at family and social events (weddings, family reunions). It's the best of both worlds.

BTW, this combo is also relatively inexpensive...which leaves more money free to invest in good glass!


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Jan 21, 2013 19:30 |  #11

lettershop wrote in post #15516308 (external link)
We bought a 1DX for Christmas and kept the 60D as a backup. Wifey refuses to use the 60D any more, so I use the Rebel when she is using the FF or whenver I want the extra reach with the crop. Our good lenses were already L lenses, so we pretty much use the same lenses for either. I will be looking at the 14-24 if/when that comes out though

The 60D isn't a rebel ;)

I have a 5DIII and a 450D, I rarely use the 450D anymore because the controls are so different that I make mistakes.


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Jan 21, 2013 20:23 |  #12

5dc and XS




  
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Jan 21, 2013 23:56 |  #13

I'm rocking said combo, works well for me


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Jan 22, 2013 02:38 |  #14

I've got a T2i now and I'm upgrading to a 6D in the near future with no intentions of ever selling my Rebel, I think the combo makes perfect sense!


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Jan 22, 2013 06:15 |  #15

Sirrith wrote in post #15517629 (external link)
The 60D isn't a rebel ;)

I have a 5DIII and a 450D, I rarely use the 450D anymore because the controls are so different that I make mistakes.

Well the difference in resolution between the 5DIII and the 450D is so small that the massive improvement in sensor quality will more than make up for the slight difference in "reach" with a long lens. So in that case the Rebel has no advantage.

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