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Jan 23, 2013 22:16 |  #1

If you had to pick 1CANON camera (NO 1DX or 5D MK3 causse i cant afford either 1 right now) that would give you the best all around performance including high ISO performance, what would it be? Im looking to add another body and cant decide because of all the options out there. I have a 7D so i got my "sports" body covered. Maybe FF or maybe a 1.3x crop? I cant decide .....

So im looking for help from you......THANKS


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Jan 23, 2013 22:18 |  #2

6D?


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Jan 23, 2013 22:20 |  #3

nccb wrote in post #15526674 (external link)
6D?

Why?

Im looking for reasons to buy not just an answer.


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Jan 23, 2013 22:28 |  #4

I haven't shot with one but I mentioned 6D because:
1) You already have the AF features of 7D
2) You specifically ruled out 5D3 and 1DX
3) The 6D on POTN and other forums and reviews has had incredible 5D3-ish ISO performance, which you mention in your post as a requirement.
4) you said "maybe FF" and 6D is a lower price point FF

Beyond that you left no other detail, so there's little to go on. If you want a more detailed answer then people are going to ask questions like - what do you shoot? Is FPS important? Is ISO performance most important? Ergonomics? Weight?


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Jan 23, 2013 22:32 |  #5

FPS not as important as ISO, weight, body ergo's etc. not really a concern. I shoot just about everything imaginable. Portraits,landscapes,w​eddings recital, etc...etc...
I just though input from users of different bodies would help me narrow down my choices.


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Jan 23, 2013 22:46 |  #6

feetdown wrote in post #15526666 (external link)
If you had to pick 1CANON camera (NO 1DX or 5D MK3 causse i cant afford either 1 right now) that would give you the best all around performance including high ISO performance, what would it be?

If I had to pick one Canon, but it can't be a 5D3 or a 1Dx . . .
. . . that's easy - the 1D Mark 4

Why?

Of all the models (other than your exceptions), it would be the most useful for what I shoot. This is not because of just one feature, but rather the combination of features and strengths it possesses.

The AF is, I believe, as good as that on any of the remaining bodies*.

Frames per second are a huge consideration for me. The 1D4 beats any remaining bodies*.

ISO may not be quite as good as the 6D, but would be very useable at 1600, and 3200 may even do in a pinch - which is sufficient for my needs and better than what I am used to.

Battery life is actually quite important to me, and I believe the 1D4 beats any remaining body*.

The pixel density is, I believe, quite a good compromise with 16 million pixels spread out over a 1.3 crop factor sensor area. For what I shoot this is a significant consideration.

The 1D4 will AF at a minimum aperture of f8, which is important to anyone like myself who uses big supertelephoto primes with 1.4x and 2x converters. I do not believe any remaining bodies* will AF at f8 (except for older 1D models).

* when I use the term, "remaining bodies", I mean those Canon bodies remaining after you eliminate the 5D3 and 1Dx


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Jan 23, 2013 22:49 |  #7

Personally I don't like crop, so for me I'd go 1Ds III / 5D II / 6D, in that order.


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Jan 23, 2013 22:54 |  #8

feetdown wrote in post #15526710 (external link)
I just though input from users of different bodies would help me narrow down my choices.

Assuming you're only buying new, your choices are already narrowed down. All 1.3x bodies have been discontinued (though some clearout stock can be found), and all current APS-C bodies have the same/nearly the same sensor as your 7D. Since you said you were looking for improvement in high ISO performance, and can't afford a 5D3 or 1DX, your only options are the are the 6D and 5D II.

Going into the used market won't add much depth to your search...basically only the 5D classic and 1D3. Everything else will either cost more than a 5D3 or not bring any IQ improvements over the 7D.


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Jan 23, 2013 23:15 |  #9

Leopold Stotch wrote in post #15526772 (external link)
Assuming you're only buying new, your choices are already narrowed down. All 1.3x bodies have been discontinued (though some clearout stock can be found), and all current APS-C bodies have the same/nearly the same sensor as your 7D. Since you said you were looking for improvement in high ISO performance, and can't afford a 5D3 or 1DX, your only options are the are the 6D and 5D II.

Going into the used market won't add much depth to your search...basically only the 5D classic and 1D3. Everything else will either cost more than a 5D3 or not bring any IQ improvements over the 7D.



Good point......but lately I've seen mkIV's for @ $2400-3000 depending on shutter count. So im not ruling it out yet.


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Jan 24, 2013 02:06 |  #10

The only thing you specified was high ISO performance. 6D wins that out of your remaining choices. It would compliment your 7D nicely.




  
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Jan 24, 2013 06:57 |  #11

If the 5D3 is out due to price, either a 6D or 5D2 would be my choice for the better high ISO performance of full frame. The 6D is newer, but the 5D2's ergonomics will be closer to your 7D.


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Jan 24, 2013 08:59 |  #12

5DII or 6D... full frame to better complement the crop camera you already have. Having two formats would be of some value leveraging your lens kit and the difference between 1.6X and FF is greater than 1.6X and 1.3X. FF also will give a bit better high ISO performance than your 7D.... about one stop's worth in RAWs, 6D might give a little better if doing JPEGs in-camera. Of the two, I'd probably opt for the 5DII because it shares the general control layout of the 7D, and uses the same memory cards. 6D controls are a bit different and it uses SD memory. So it might cause you to pause, switching back and forth between them... and you'd need to carry and handle two different types of memory.


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Jan 24, 2013 10:39 as a reply to  @ amfoto1's post |  #13

why not just buy another lens?


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Jan 24, 2013 15:21 |  #14

elitejp wrote in post #15528170 (external link)
why not just buy another lens?

Need a back-up body.


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