Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
Thread started 21 Jan 2013 (Monday) 16:33
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

WD Passport 1TB vs. 2 TB?

 
mike_d
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,416 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 625
Joined Aug 2009
     
Jan 25, 2013 00:25 |  #61

Simon_Gardner wrote in post #15531052 (external link)
Yup. Mine has and still I always wait for the drive to stop before moving it. I vetoed SSDs last time (a year ago) because they were too small. Maybe that's changed now.

The cost per GB on SSDs has dropped a lot in the last year. Big ones are still pricey but for most people a 128-256GB drive is sufficient and not too expensive.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Simon_Gardner
Goldmember
Avatar
1,307 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Mar 2010
Location: Twitter @Simon_Gardner
     
Jan 25, 2013 03:51 |  #62

mike_d wrote in post #15531082 (external link)
The cost per GB on SSDs has dropped a lot in the last year. Big ones are still pricey but for most people a 128-256GB drive is sufficient and not too expensive.

No. For my laptop I want at least 750Gb.


@Simon_Gardner | Since 27 Nov 1987 | Tripod fetishist - moi?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
gjl711
"spouting off stupid things"
Avatar
55,872 posts
Likes: 2641
Joined Aug 2006
Location: Deep in the heart of Texas
     
Jan 25, 2013 06:30 |  #63

Simon_Gardner wrote in post #15531357 (external link)
No. For my laptop I want at least 750Gb.

Then you gonna pay.


Not sure why, but call me JJ.
I used to hate math but then I realised decimals have a point.
.
::Flickr:: (external link)
::Gear::

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Roxie2401
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
355 posts
Likes: 2
Joined Jan 2009
Location: Western PA
     
Jan 25, 2013 06:52 as a reply to  @ gjl711's post |  #64

This is all very interesting (and just a tad off-topic) - and since this thread started, the price on the "My Passports" has gone up.

Any final comments on the WD 1 & 2 TB drives?

Thanks very much for the advice.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tickerguy
Senior Member
595 posts
Joined Dec 2012
     
Jan 25, 2013 06:52 |  #65

On my Lenovo X220 I have a hybrid system that I installed myself. The machine has a mSATA slot under the keyboard that I stuffed a 256GB SSD into. The OS, applications and small scratch space lives there.

There is also a 7mm 2.5" SATA slot into which I have stuffed a 500GB 7200RPM drive (the largest I've found in a 7mm form factor.) This has bulk data on it. But -- it is only spun up when I'm using it, which isn't all that often, and the machine has an accelerometer. When I'm not using that drive it is spun down with the heads parked and a small set of rubber rails that the drive resides on. This provides a reasonable degree of protection against shocks.

This works out quite well and is something to consider doing. You can get larger 2.5" SSDs but they're hideously expensive -- the 120-250GB models aren't too bad, but the larger ones are ridiculous. Price is coming down and will continue to however, so over time this situation will get better.

Back the original request -- I wouldn't buy either in a 2.5" form factor. I'd instead buy a 3.5" enclosure with the fastest interface port I had on my machine (either eSATA if PC, Thunderbolt or Firewire if Mac, USB if compatibility is more important than speed) and mount a 2TB disk in there. Buy two so if one fails you're not screwed and copy to both. You can likely buy two of those setups for the price of one WD Passport.


Canon 7D & 5d3, EF-S 15-85, 24-105L, 70-200L f/4 IS, 100mm Macro/L, EF 50 f/1.4 and more

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
treacle
Junior Member
26 posts
Joined Feb 2007
     
Jan 25, 2013 08:11 |  #66

I am a former Mac Genius and have had my own small computer support company for several years. No hard drive is immune to failure, it is best to expect them to fail and have multiple copies in multiple locations.

I find 2.5 hard drives to be a bit sturdier then the 3.5 HDs as they are made to sustain more abuse. SSDs have come down alot in the past year I have seen 500 and 512GB SSD for under $400. I have a few 256GB SSDs for travel I bought a little over a year ago. I have had hundreds of drives for myself and thousands for clients, WD's Seagates, Samsungs, and others over the years.

I have my files on multiple medias usually at least 4 one copy offsite. I have had a Drobo for several years but if I were to buy another RAID or RAID type system now I would get a Promise Pegasus with thunderbolt.

USB 3 Flash drives are becoming more common and faster. I just ordered LaCie 64GB XtremKey USB 3.0 to copy my selects onto while traveling. I will also travel with a La Cie Rugged Mini 500 GB USB3 and one other drive either SSD or HDD depends on the room in my bag.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Simon_Gardner
Goldmember
Avatar
1,307 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Mar 2010
Location: Twitter @Simon_Gardner
     
Jan 25, 2013 08:38 as a reply to  @ treacle's post |  #67

PHOTOBUCKET EMBEDDING IS DISABLED BY THIS MEMBER.
Photobucket sends ads instead of embedding photos from their free galleries.
Click the link (if available) below to see the image in a gallery page.

http://i754.photobucke​t.com …rdner/3_up_icon​_arrow.gif (external link)
Useful post.

@Simon_Gardner | Since 27 Nov 1987 | Tripod fetishist - moi?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
D. ­ Vance
Goldmember
Avatar
4,162 posts
Likes: 9
Joined Jan 2011
Location: VA
     
Jan 25, 2013 08:44 |  #68

treacle wrote in post #15531775 (external link)
I am a former Mac Genius and have had my own small computer support company for several years. No hard drive is immune to failure, it is best to expect them to fail and have multiple copies in multiple locations.

I find 2.5 hard drives to be a bit sturdier then the 3.5 HDs as they are made to sustain more abuse. SSDs have come down alot in the past year I have seen 500 and 512GB SSD for under $400. I have a few 256GB SSDs for travel I bought a little over a year ago. I have had hundreds of drives for myself and thousands for clients, WD's Seagates, Samsungs, and others over the years.

I have my files on multiple medias usually at least 4 one copy offsite. I have had a Drobo for several years but if I were to buy another RAID or RAID type system now I would get a Promise Pegasus with thunderbolt.

USB 3 Flash drives are becoming more common and faster. I just ordered LaCie 64GB XtremKey USB 3.0 to copy my selects onto while traveling. I will also travel with a La Cie Rugged Mini 500 GB USB3 and one other drive either SSD or HDD depends on the room in my bag.

That's one reason I have so much data; you have to burn to 2 copies to be safe. That's also why my next HDD purchase will prohably be two 3 TB's, so I can write to both.


I wonder if the video editors on The Titanic ever went, "Sorry, I can't right now. I'm busy synching the Titanic..."

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RTPVid
Goldmember
3,365 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Aug 2010
Location: MN
     
Jan 25, 2013 08:51 |  #69

tickerguy wrote in post #15531566 (external link)
...Back the original request -- I wouldn't buy either in a 2.5" form factor. I'd instead buy a 3.5" enclosure with the fastest interface port I had on my machine (either eSATA if PC, Thunderbolt or Firewire if Mac, USB if compatibility is more important than speed) and mount a 2TB disk in there. Buy two so if one fails you're not screwed and copy to both. You can likely buy two of those setups for the price of one WD Passport.

If portability is not a concern, sure, go for 3.5" drives and buy your own enclosures for a DIY with the lower price and better performance.

But, 2.5" drives have key portability advantages, apart from the "somewhat more rugged" design.

  • Much smaller. Easily less than half the size and weight in the enclosure.
  • Lower power, so no power brick required if using USB; can be used using the laptop's battery so no AC connection required for anything.


eSATA is faster, but has no capability of powering the drive ... not sure about firewire. Thunderbolt can theoretically bus power devices, but due to the design, the amount of power available to the device itself is so low it is a real challenge to manufacturers, certainly beyond anything you'd get in a DIY enclosure. I seem to recall some manufacturer recently announcing a bus-powered thunderbolt SSD external drive. But it was more than $600 for the 256GB size IIRC.

USB has utility beyond "compatibility" and bus-power is a worthwhile feature for portable drives. And, USB3 is quite fast.

SSD is not an option in the 1-2TB size class unless money doesn't matter.

Tom

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tickerguy
Senior Member
595 posts
Joined Dec 2012
     
Jan 25, 2013 09:04 |  #70

Firewire requires external power.

USB does not for 2.5" disks. But the price is high on a capacity-comparable basis. You pay in both speed and money for the smaller size and single-cable option; you have to decide if it's worth it or not.


Canon 7D & 5d3, EF-S 15-85, 24-105L, 70-200L f/4 IS, 100mm Macro/L, EF 50 f/1.4 and more

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
RTPVid
Goldmember
3,365 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Aug 2010
Location: MN
     
Jan 25, 2013 11:26 |  #71

tickerguy wrote in post #15531917 (external link)
Firewire requires external power.

USB does not for 2.5" disks. But the price is high on a capacity-comparable basis. You pay in both speed and money for the smaller size and single-cable option; you have to decide if it's worth it or not.

Well, the price is not THAT much higher. In fact, at 1TB or below, there is no real cost difference at all. WD's 1TB USB3 2.5" is ~$90, same as their 1 TB 3.5" (source: Newegg.com). At 2TB, the difference is real (~$110 v ~$150, again, WD brand at Newegg.com).

For portable use, size, weight, and power may very easily tip the scale even at 2TB per drive.


Tom

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Simon_Gardner
Goldmember
Avatar
1,307 posts
Likes: 3
Joined Mar 2010
Location: Twitter @Simon_Gardner
     
Jan 25, 2013 11:52 |  #72

tickerguy wrote in post #15531917 (external link)
Firewire requires external power.

Since when?


@Simon_Gardner | Since 27 Nov 1987 | Tripod fetishist - moi?

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tickerguy
Senior Member
595 posts
Joined Dec 2012
     
Jan 25, 2013 17:38 |  #73

All my enclosures I've used have. If you got one that doesn't that's another point in FW's favor. FW is plenty fast, incidentally -- 2.5" disks are hard-pressed to exceed 40 MB/s transfer rates, which is well under FW 800's capability.


Canon 7D & 5d3, EF-S 15-85, 24-105L, 70-200L f/4 IS, 100mm Macro/L, EF 50 f/1.4 and more

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mike_d
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
5,416 posts
Gallery: 7 photos
Likes: 625
Joined Aug 2009
     
Jan 25, 2013 17:50 |  #74

tickerguy wrote in post #15533817 (external link)
All my enclosures I've used have. If you got one that doesn't that's another point in FW's favor. FW is plenty fast, incidentally -- 2.5" disks are hard-pressed to exceed 40 MB/s transfer rates, which is well under FW 800's capability.

I just tested a WD 500GB 2.5" drive in a USB3.0 case. Sequential transfers were at 83MB/sec. That's under FW800's theoretical maximum, but getting pretty close. I think this drive is a couple years old too.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
treacle
Junior Member
26 posts
Joined Feb 2007
     
Jan 25, 2013 18:05 |  #75

Simon_Gardner wrote in post #15532499 (external link)
Since when?

Some older PCs notably Sonys had FW400 4 pin that had no power but Macs with Firewire have always had power to them. New Macs don't have Firewire but there is a Thunderbolt to Firewire adapter you can buy.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

10,836 views & 0 likes for this thread
WD Passport 1TB vs. 2 TB?
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon Accessories 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member was a spammer, and banned as such!
1071 guests, 205 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.