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Jan 25, 2013 15:38 |  #16

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Have shot many landscape photos with 24-105 mm and 17-40 mm on 5D2 and now looking at buying a better lens! What would you recommend?

TS-E 17mm

TS-E 24mm II


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Jan 25, 2013 15:41 |  #17

JeffreyG wrote in post #15533363 (external link)
TS-E 17mm

TS-E 24mm II

Thanks Jeffrey.


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Jan 25, 2013 16:35 |  #18

Zeiss 21mm is just an amazing optic


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Jan 25, 2013 16:44 |  #19

nburwell wrote in post #15532657 (external link)
I agree with Todd, both 17mm and 24mm TS-E lenses are great for landscape photography. Also, the 16-35mm mkII is another decent choice if you're looking to upgrade from your 17-40mm. Another choice to throw out there is the 14mm from Canon.

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I rented the 16-35 and found it soft and without much contrast. Maybe I just had a bad lens, but decided to stay with the 17-40. I think the difference in price is due to the one stop more on the 16-35


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Jan 25, 2013 17:01 |  #20

tonyniev wrote in post #15532521 (external link)
Have shot many landscape photos with 24-105 mm and 17-40 mm on 5D2 and now looking at buying a better lens! What would you recommend?

You can't go wrong with either lens! I use a 17-40 and the wife 24-105 on 5D2's which perform superbly! But, my favorite landscape shot was with my 70-200 f/2.8L IS. So, if I had brought the 17-40 or 24-105 I wouldn't have this shot:

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I considered all lenses before going with the 17-40. I find my focal lengths can vary from 17 to 40 at any given scene which eliminated all prime lenses. I have even considered picking up another 24-105 (since it's her go to lens), but I do not like the barrel extension when using LEE filters.

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Jan 25, 2013 17:07 as a reply to  @ JJD.Photography's post |  #21

i like my Nikon 14-24 with a Novaflex adapter.


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Jan 25, 2013 17:11 |  #22

JJD.Photography wrote in post #15533690 (external link)
You can't go wrong with either lens! I use a 17-40 and the wife 24-105 on 5D2's which perform superbly! But, my favorite landscape shot was with my 70-200 f/2.8L IS. So, if I had brought the 17-40 or 24-105 I wouldn't have this shot:

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I considered all lenses before going with the 17-40. I find my focal lengths can vary from 17 to 40 at any given scene which eliminated all prime lenses. I have even considered picking up another 24-105 (since it's her go to lens), but I do not like the barrel extension when using LEE filters.

It is worth pointing out that far too many people think 'ultra wide' when they hear 'landscape'.

To be sure, a wide angle is typically used more for landscapes than anything else, but I would think 24mm is probably wide enough (on FF) for most people. Not that you can't use wider from time to time.

But having tilt shift is also very handy, especially in a wide lens.

That's why I suggested starting with either the 17mm or 24mm TS-E (the 17mm would be the most flexible as it can be cropped while the 24mm cannot be widened).

But a second priority would be something longer, probably a 70-200 but maybe even a 100-400. I'm not a landscape photographer (I'm not available at the right time of day due to having four kids and a job), but some of the most interesting 'landscape' photos I have taken have been with a long telephoto.


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Jan 25, 2013 17:16 |  #23

JJD.Photography wrote in post #15533690 (external link)
You can't go wrong with either lens! I use a 17-40 and the wife 24-105 on 5D2's which perform superbly! But, my favorite landscape shot was with my 70-200 f/2.8L IS. So, if I had brought the 17-40 or 24-105 I wouldn't have this shot:

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I considered all lenses before going with the 17-40. I find my focal lengths can vary from 17 to 40 at any given scene which eliminated all prime lenses. I have even considered picking up another 24-105 (since it's her go to lens), but I do not like the barrel extension when using LEE filters.


Thanks, yes 17-40, 24-105 and 70-200 are always in my travel bag.


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Jan 25, 2013 17:17 |  #24

After I pick up a similar price Zeiss and Leica binocular, I think Leica is better with the colour accuracy / warmer than the Zeiss. Unfortunate / fortunate Leica doesn't make lens for Canon ;)


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Jan 25, 2013 17:25 |  #25

Sample shots first three on 5D2
24-105

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17-40
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100-400
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70-200 on 7D
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Jan 25, 2013 18:53 |  #26

I have also rented the 16-35 and the 24 prime
24 prime sample is in HDR

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I will try the TSE and Zeiss.

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Jan 25, 2013 19:24 |  #27

JeffreyG wrote in post #15533734 (external link)
It is worth pointing out that far too many people think 'ultra wide' when they hear 'landscape'.

To be sure, a wide angle is typically used more for landscapes than anything else, but I would think 24mm is probably wide enough (on FF) for most people. Not that you can't use wider from time to time.

But having tilt shift is also very handy, especially in a wide lens.

That's why I suggested starting with either the 17mm or 24mm TS-E (the 17mm would be the most flexible as it can be cropped while the 24mm cannot be widened).

I wonder if there are filter holders for the 17mm TSE?


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Jan 26, 2013 02:03 |  #28

tonyniev wrote in post #15534138 (external link)
I wonder if there are filter holders for the 17mm TSE?

In short, yes. It's possible to modify a lens cap and glue on an 82 mm Lee wide angle ring so that you can mount a Lee filter holder. I've done this and it works well. Note that these lenses are too wide to use the Lee polariser.

On the OP's choice of lenses, I'd suggest that manual focus lenses, live view focusing and a heavy duty tripod are the way to go. This facilitates focus stacking which can lead to an image that is sharp over the entire frame.

My stable includes the TS-E 17, ZE 21, ZE 25, ZE 28, ZE 35 (both) and ZE 50MP. Of these, I find the 35 and 50 mm lenses are most useful for landscapes - they have very little distortion so that stitching images together does not result in significant loss of sharpness. The image scale of the lenses is useful too if you plan to make a large print.

On TS-E lenses - I've experimented quite a bit with the TS-E 17, 1.4x Mk III extender and the TS-E 24 Mk II. Contrary to popular wisdom. the 17+1.4x combination was actually sharper than the TS-E 24 Mk II (although barely so.) The difference will really depend on which lens has focal curvature that better suits the subject.

I decided against a ZE 15/2.8 (and shorter lenses.) I feel that if I need to go ultra-wide, the TS-E 17 can produce a distortion-free panorama corresponding to an 11 or 14 mm lens (depending on the orientation of the shift control.)

Finally, I'll throw in a plug for the OM 16/3.5 fisheye. It's a very easy lens to use for landscapes and I've achieved many acceptable images.


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Jan 26, 2013 02:33 |  #29

^^ wow you have quiet a stable of lenses there. Thanks
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Jan 26, 2013 09:43 |  #30

Todd Lambert wrote in post #15532575 (external link)
17 or 24 TS-E

Zeiss 21

Zeiss 15

This.

17 and 24 TS-E are great optically. Sharp in corners as well, and tiltshift is a nice bonus.

However, I went for the Zeiss.

Once You go for Zeiss, there's no more Lies :D

When it comes to wideangles there is no denying that the Zeiss lenses are just fantastic. You will fall in love with that bokeh, that corner sharpness, build quality, and most important, that smooth manual focus ring, Zeiss microcontrast and colors. Surely a skillful post processing will decrease the microcontrast advantage of Zeiss over Canon wideangles. Then again tiltshift is also relatively easy to mimic on post-processing... So I'd recommended looking though the image sample pages to see what pleases your eye the most. Everyone sees them differently. Overall I prefer the Zeiss colors over Canon.









And make your decision based on the needed focal lenght, affordability, and how good deal you can find. Shame the Zeiss 15 is so expensive, but the Samyang 14mm is an excelent, affordable solution. I wouldn't worry about the lack of autofocus, I never had a problem focusing wideangles manually anyway. Live View is a big help.

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