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Jan 25, 2013 06:10 |  #16

Yeah, but the Hyperdrive et al are for use when you're away from a decent computer. So you're not going to be doing anything to the images except transfer them, which means that transfer time isn't as important. I like to do my transfers at the end of the day, whilre preparing for the evening. At 15 min per 32GB card I can do double backups of everything shot in a day in less than an hour - while showering, changing, etc.


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Jan 25, 2013 06:24 |  #17

hollis_f wrote in post #15531520 (external link)
Yeah, but the Hyperdrive et al are for use when you're away from a decent computer. So you're not going to be doing anything to the images except transfer them, which means that transfer time isn't as important. I like to do my transfers at the end of the day, whilre preparing for the evening. At 15 min per 32GB card I can do double backups of everything shot in a day in less than an hour - while showering, changing, etc.

Sometimes I transfer as I go along. Sometimes I don't. It somewhat depends on if I need the use of the card(s) again. If I transfer I also Script relabel with stuff like the date added into the file name and a unique identifier for that batch. It's just a habit. I do it prior to them going into Lightroom.

If I'm away, of course, there's the advantage of doing a bit of editing as I go along later that day.

Anyway I generally have a computer around for other stuff that I don't want to be messing around with a phone screen for.

But as I said, I'm running a security risk there.


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Jan 27, 2013 19:05 |  #18

Simple question here.....

IF you are going on a long vacation and don't take a laptop (or external drive and card reader in case you can find a computer in the hotel lobby or such or use a friends)

THEN WHY does everyone seem to gravitate towards some device to copy your cards onto which needs batteries or a charger, which I don't consider more reliable than the CF cards, and would be a target to steal? When you could spend the $300 or $400 on a bunch of slower big CF cards? (I call them industrial cards) that would have at least as much capacity as that box and fit into your pocket for security in a card case???????

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Jan 28, 2013 05:24 |  #19

P51Mstg wrote in post #15541216 (external link)
you could spend the $300 or $400 on a bunch of slower big CF cards? (I call them industrial cards) that would have at least as much capacity as that box and fit into your pocket for security in a card case

Well, for a start I don't want to shoot with slow cards when I'm on safari. That's when I'm most likely to be shooting long bursts and want the buffer cleared quickly. So, forgetting your cheap cards, lets compare prices.

So I can get five CF cards for my $400. That's 150GB of storage, which isn't a lot for 10 days on safari - especially if I'm going to be shooting video as well, even more so when there are two of us shooting. So much for 'at least as much capacity as that box'. Indeed, I'd need buy 16 cards to match the capacity of 'that box' - that's $1312!

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Jan 28, 2013 08:10 as a reply to  @ hollis_f's post |  #20

All I can say is have a good time........

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Jan 28, 2013 12:45 |  #21

P51Mstg wrote in post #15541216 (external link)
Simple question here.....

IF you are going on a long vacation and don't take a laptop (or external drive and card reader in case you can find a computer in the hotel lobby or such or use a friends)

THEN WHY does everyone seem to gravitate towards some device to copy your cards onto which needs batteries or a charger, which I don't consider more reliable than the CF cards, and would be a target to steal? When you could spend the $300 or $400 on a bunch of slower big CF cards? (I call them industrial cards) that would have at least as much capacity as that box and fit into your pocket for security in a card case???????

Mark H

At present, I just take along an ample supply of memory cards, but then I don't produce the volume of photos per trip as Frank Hollis talks about. But, my approach has a MAJOR disadvantage: The cards themselves are not backed up, and so I'm at risk of loss due to card failure, physical damage, or losing the card. Most of that can be mitigated by proper care and storage, but the risk is always there.

Regarding batteries, the Colorspace II uses a USB connection for charging, which means your power options are very broad. You can even get power supplies with a USB output that run off of AA batteries.

A single Colorspace can provide backup for your flash cards, but that still doesn't allow you to erase and re-use your cards, since your only copy would now be the Colorspace rather than the cards, so you still need the same number of cards (assuming you want a backup).


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Jan 28, 2013 12:58 |  #22

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A single Colorspace can provide backup for your flash cards, but that still doesn't allow you to erase and re-use your cards, since your only copy would now be the Colorspace rather than the cards, so you still need the same number of cards (assuming you want a backup).

Two possible options...


  1. You can buy a USB-OTG interface for the Colorspace which allows you to back up from the Colorspace to a secondary storage device. Total extra cost around $100
  2. You can backup to a second Colorspace. When I travel with my friend this is what we do as we both own one. This is the optimum solution but is costly for just one person.

And, if you just buy lots of cards you have no backup at all. If they get lost/stolen then your images are totally gone.

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Great discussion and suggestions. The hyperdrive option for me seems bit steep in price, and have been researching Wolverine PicPac II 500GB device as a reasonably priced alternative (approx $180).

http://www.amazon.com …er-Portable/dp/B00695YMVI (external link)

Does anyone here have any experience with this PicPac device?



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Jan 28, 2013 22:51 |  #24

csondagar wrote in post #15546148 (external link)
Great discussion and suggestions. The hyperdrive option for me seems bit steep in price, and have been researching Wolverine PicPac II 500GB device as a reasonably priced alternative (approx $180).

http://www.amazon.com …er-Portable/dp/B00695YMVI (external link)

Does anyone here have any experience with this PicPac device?

These versions (160GB and 250GB) have some user reviews posted:

http://www.amazon.com …torage-7625/dp/B003QP49N0 (external link)

http://www.amazon.com …rd_r=0RWRGGGJVH​9VJH02KASN (external link)


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Jan 29, 2013 00:17 |  #25

Make sure you check out the specs. Here are some samples from various devices.

Fast copy speeds - can copy a full 1GB card in approximately 3.5 minutes

So that's nearly 2 hours for a 32GB card!

Battery powered - copy up to 15 GB on a single charge

Totally useless.

Compare them to the Colorspace UDMA2.

Backup 2GB in 1 minute
Ultra powerful battery (backup up to 250GB per battery)


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Jan 29, 2013 19:06 |  #26

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I just shot 73Gb today.

How the **** did you manage to do that? Wow...
I have a hard time shooting 100 images a day.

I was gonna recommend just buying a couple 32gb thumb drives and transferring to that but if you're shooting that much I really don't know what reasonable solutions there are...


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Jan 29, 2013 21:59 |  #27

Lens Rentals rents out the Colorspaces, so you can try one before you buy. Or rent for the trip.


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Jan 29, 2013 22:04 |  #28

P51Mstg wrote in post #15541216 (external link)
Simple question here.....

IF you are going on a long vacation and don't take a laptop (or external drive and card reader in case you can find a computer in the hotel lobby or such or use a friends)

THEN WHY does everyone seem to gravitate towards some device to copy your cards onto which needs batteries or a charger, which I don't consider more reliable than the CF cards, and would be a target to steal? When you could spend the $300 or $400 on a bunch of slower big CF cards? (I call them industrial cards) that would have at least as much capacity as that box and fit into your pocket for security in a card case???????

Mark H

How is a laptop less of a theft target than a Colorspace/similar device?


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Jan 30, 2013 01:24 |  #29

TijmenDal wrote in post #15549873 (external link)
How the **** did you manage to do that? Wow...
I have a hard time shooting 100 images a day.

I was gonna recommend just buying a couple 32gb thumb drives and transferring to that but if you're shooting that much I really don't know what reasonable solutions there are...

Actually I got the figure wrong. It was actually just over 98Gb.

It all depends on what you are doing. I was shooting wild creatures in appalling conditions in a blizzard - all day.


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Jan 30, 2013 01:26 as a reply to  @ Simon_Gardner's post |  #30

Just to add, I ensure all my devices - cameras, computers, mifi, etc will run/charge off a car.


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