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Family Portraits - Cost?

 
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Jan 21, 2013 14:09 |  #16

Do it for free. Have him take you out for drinks or dinner.


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Jan 23, 2013 17:12 |  #17

Yea not to shoot down your dreams, but I"m my area here everybody is a photographer. Most people I know flock to friends or the sub 400 craiglist add for weddings and the sub 100 dollars for everything else.


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Jan 28, 2013 18:38 |  #18

Just say "How about I do the shoot for you, then afterwards, you shout a few beers and dinner tonight(or any given day)" . I've done this before, not with photography but small installations as an electrician for friends/family..ect. He gets the photos, you get more experience PLUS a paid dinner and drinks.




  
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Jan 29, 2013 13:58 as a reply to  @ neimad19's post |  #19

he wants some standard pictures on a white background and some in a nice park setting...he's also wanting some in b/w and others in vivid color

Two different family sessions. That's quite a bit of work.

...im an ASE master auto technician during the "9-5" hours

So, what would you do if he needed extensive engine work?

My basic rule is "full freight or free." If he's a good enough friend for me to do that much work, it would be free. If he's not that good a friend, it would be full price.

Maybe I'd give him some of the bennies I give good, repeat customers (such as not having to pay the session fee immediately upon scheduling or a free gift print after the main sale), but he wouldn't get any better deal than a good customer unless he was such a good friend that I'd do that much work free.

This is why: People--not even good friends--know how to place a proper monetary value on cut-rate work. If you do a $500 job for $50, they don't understand that they got a $450 "gift." They just know they had to pay $50, and that's what they figure it was worth.

Because they don't understand they got a "gift horse" in the first place, they will "look it in the mouth" and expect full-price service. If you don't give them full-price service--because you know you're giving them a gift--they will still feel cheated by a "friend" because they think by paying anything at all, they should get the full-price service.

So for me, it's full freight or free.




  
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Jan 29, 2013 15:38 |  #20

yeah, he's not even that great of a friend...he was 2yrs ahead of me in school...i knew him through our circle, but havent actually spent time around the guy in over 3yrs (and only 20-30min on new years eve back then)

he contacted me after seeing some pictures i had been posting on photobucket/facebook..​.so...im still waiting to hear back from him and what his wife are interested in having done




  
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Jan 29, 2013 18:11 |  #21

Do it for free or only give a small discount to your friends. If you do it at a significant discount you'll feel as though you are doing them a huge favor and they'll feel like and want to be treated as a paying client.


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Jan 29, 2013 18:21 |  #22

RDKirk wrote in post #15548633 (external link)
Two different family sessions. That's quite a bit of work.



So, what would you do if he needed extensive engine work?

My basic rule is "full freight or free." If he's a good enough friend for me to do that much work, it would be free. If he's not that good a friend, it would be full price.

Maybe I'd give him some of the bennies I give good, repeat customers (such as not having to pay the session fee immediately upon scheduling or a free gift print after the main sale), but he wouldn't get any better deal than a good customer unless he was such a good friend that I'd do that much work free.

This is why: People--not even good friends--know how to place a proper monetary value on cut-rate work. If you do a $500 job for $50, they don't understand that they got a $450 "gift." They just know they had to pay $50, and that's what they figure it was worth.

Because they don't understand they got a "gift horse" in the first place, they will "look it in the mouth" and expect full-price service. If you don't give them full-price service--because you know you're giving them a gift--they will still feel cheated by a "friend" because they think by paying anything at all, they should get the full-price service.

So for me, it's full freight or free.

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Jan 29, 2013 18:23 |  #23

ExplicitSnow wrote in post #15508377 (external link)
ive got another client...he's an old friend of mine, so of course i dont plan on charging him an insane amount

but none the less, whats a good starting point for some family photos? he wants some standard pictures on a white background and some in a nice park setting...he's also wanting some in b/w and others in vivid color

where should i base my costs on?

You could try the Sal formula.

A = Your cost of living - rent/morgage, food, insurance, car payments, etc
B = Your yearly business costs - studio rent - equipment replacements/upgrades, etc
C = How many portraits you want a year *ie 3 a week with some vacation time could be 150 portraits, less if you factor weddings*
D = individual portrait expenses like gas to studio, prints, etc

per portrait minimum = ( (A + B) / C ) + D

There are more complicated and thorough calculators out there, but I like the above. :)


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Jan 29, 2013 21:39 |  #24

I just did shots for a friend of mine. We have been friends since elementary school, I charged him $50 for his family. He gave me the $50 and his wife gave me a $20 tip. My normal rate for a half hour is $75, and we were shooting for about an hour.


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