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any reason to get the 6D over the D600?

 
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Jan 31, 2013 00:57 |  #136

RobDickinson wrote in post #15552990 (external link)
In terms of performance modern cameras are all so close to each other and so good it doesnt really differentiate

How is the 6D doing in comparison with 5Dmk2, Rob? Can you tell that there is 3 years of development between them? I could test my old 5Dmk2 against the D600 and the D600 is way better in terms of image quality.




  
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Jan 31, 2013 01:51 |  #137

I havnt (still) got into the raws , have to download dng convertor 7.3

At base ISO theres not much difference (tho remember I am comparing jpg to raw..). ISO 1600+ theres a real difference, the 6d is def cleaner for high iso and stars.

Operationally its snappy, not like the clunky slow 5d2


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Jan 31, 2013 02:28 as a reply to  @ RobDickinson's post |  #138

Would be interesting to see what you think about the raws. I dont really care about the ergonomics or operation. My camera is set to MF and is mounted to tripod almost exclusively. The only thing I had to change in my workflow with the D600 was to stop using liveview as it is horrid. It does suck as it is very useful, but none of my DSLRs before the 5Dmk2 had liveview so it is not such a biggie.




  
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Jan 31, 2013 03:44 |  #139

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Tried the D600 with a kit lens for a week and the grip felt awful. Too big and chunky and my hands are by no means small. The 6D feels much more comfortable and has a "quality" feel to it.

the 6D also has one feature Nikon has stubbornly left off the DSLR's, an illumination light for the LCD panel. My old D90 drove me crazy when using it indoors for close up work on a tripod (D600 not illuminated either). Got into the habit of using a small flashlight to see what was displayed on the LCD. Canon is a much better design, IMO!

If anyone still thinks the D600 is a superior camera overall, just go to the Nikon Cafe forum and read the horror stories about the sensor dust and oil problems.


the D600 does have an LCD light. You just flip the on/off switch the other way. I've also read the oil/dust issue is way overblown. I've not seen any issues so far.

That being said, I wouldn't have minded a 6D.. The -3EV center dot focus point is nice....but 1 single cross type point is just stupid. Also, it has pretty much the exact same size viewfinder as a Rebel??! (Correct me if I'm wrong. It has 96% coverage.. Rebels have 95% coverage). Even the 7D has 100% coverage and large viewfinder............​... The wifi remote application is really cool, but it's hard to argue in most points the D600 is a 6D killer. But for what it's worth, I was gonna go with the 6D anyway--almost wish I had for the lens selection and prices :|


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Jan 31, 2013 04:14 |  #140

Thanks for the input everyone! I'll go to a store and try it out to see how I like the ergonomics of the Nikon. To bad there isn't a store in my country who rents the D600 of 6D..

The D600 has an in camera time lapse function. Is there a way to do this with the Canon?



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Jan 31, 2013 04:53 |  #141

It has 97% coverage of a much larger view finder than the rebels. Corrected you as you were wrong.




  
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Jan 31, 2013 08:18 |  #142

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Would be interesting to see what you think about the raws. I dont really care about the ergonomics or operation. My camera is set to MF and is mounted to tripod almost exclusively. The only thing I had to change in my workflow with the D600 was to stop using liveview as it is horrid. It does suck as it is very useful, but none of my DSLRs before the 5Dmk2 had liveview so it is not such a biggie.

I actually use a field monitor which works like a charm on my Nikons. Heck! It even works well on my 5D 3 for aquirung critical focus. The Focus Assist on this monitor is much more useful than using Canon's LV imo.

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Jan 31, 2013 12:09 as a reply to  @ jdizzle's post |  #143

thats interesting, Jullian. I didnt know you can use these for the focus assist. which one do you have? cheers (sorry for the OT)




  
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Jan 31, 2013 13:08 |  #144

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Thanks for the input everyone! I'll go to a store and try it out to see how I like the ergonomics of the Nikon. To bad there isn't a store in my country who rents the D600 of 6D..

The D600 has an in camera time lapse function. Is there a way to do this with the Canon?

Once Magic Lantern is available for it it'll have that function and many more.


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Jan 31, 2013 15:14 |  #145

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thats interesting, Jullian. I didnt know you can use these for the focus assist. which one do you have? cheers (sorry for the OT)

You certainly can. It definitely helps when shooting low to the ground for my landscape shooting but, it will work for anything when you need critical focus. I'm using the SmallHD DP4. It works very well and it's compact for travel. :)

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Jan 31, 2013 15:17 |  #146

Well, it's a Canon. Reason enough for me... :)


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Jan 31, 2013 16:36 |  #147

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You certainly can. It definitely helps when shooting low to the ground for my landscape shooting but, it will work for anything when you need critical focus. I'm using the SmallHD DP4. It works very well and it's compact for travel. :)

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sorry, one more thing:) does this show you only what you can see through the viewfinder or it shows you the "preview" of the picture with your settings? (Canon's LV would show me the preview, even though bit noisy, even when using a 10stop ND filter which was helpful)




  
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Jan 31, 2013 16:45 |  #148

I'm guessing it plugs into the HDMI and that outputs whats on the cameras LCD?

Which has your picture style applied to it.

Magic lantern has a feature to apply another flat picture style to the live perview


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Feb 01, 2013 12:28 |  #149
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the D600 does have an LCD light. You just flip the on/off switch the other way. I've also read the oil/dust issue is way overblown. I've not seen any issues so far.

That being said, I wouldn't have minded a 6D.. The -3EV center dot focus point is nice....but 1 single cross type point is just stupid. Also, it has pretty much the exact same size viewfinder as a Rebel??! (Correct me if I'm wrong. It has 96% coverage.. Rebels have 95% coverage). Even the 7D has 100% coverage and large viewfinder............​... The wifi remote application is really cool, but it's hard to argue in most points the D600 is a 6D killer. But for what it's worth, I was gonna go with the 6D anyway--almost wish I had for the lens selection and prices :|

The 97% refers to how much of the captured image is displayed in the viewfinder. It does not have anything to do with the perceived size of the image in the viewfinder. I can not tell any difference between the 6D, 5D Mkiii or the Nik 600D as far as viewfinder useability goes. Have never used a Rebel so can not comment on it.

I still frequent the Nikon Cafe and some people are having dust/oil issues. Mine did not in the short time owned, but the sensor did start developing hot/stuck pixels which showed up readily on a dark background. Those can be mapped out but on mine new ones appeared soon after. Just a bad one I guess.


They are both good cameras and as others have said, the choice probably has more to do with what system you already have an investment in. Personally, I think they are both good. I do really like the feel of the 6D in the hand a lot better than the 600D, but that is just my perception.

If there is a bad rap on the 6D, for me it is the stupid 8 way controller within a scroll wheel. Don't know why they did not incorporate the separate joystick the 5D has.

Enjoy your Nik...like I said...both good systems.


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Feb 01, 2013 12:37 |  #150

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Enjoy your Nik...like I said...both good systems.

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