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Canon admits: Disappointed with the EOS M.

 
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Feb 01, 2013 09:38 |  #1

Dpreview posted an interview with Masaya Maeda Managing Director at Canon, and he said two interesting things about the EOS-M system

1) The Canon EOS-M didn’t sell as expected.
2) Nevertheless there will be new lenses for the EOS-M system within 2013.

It's not all bad though - one more prediction comes from MR-Maeda: There will be “an increase in the number of full-frame models”. :D

Source: http://www.dpreview.co​m …-with-canons-masaya-maeda (external link)




  
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Feb 01, 2013 09:55 |  #2

At least he admits part of the problem is lack of lens options. Sure you can adapt EF lenses, but it kinda defeats the purpose of the camera and isn't ideal as a everyday solution.


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Feb 01, 2013 09:57 |  #3

Despite this understanding, he concedes that the EOS M hasn't yet been fully able to exploit this market. 'Looking at worldwide results we've seen users are limited to certain regions - we're seeing very positive sales in Japan and South East Asia, looking beyond that we haven't established market share yet.'

which is not surprising. consider in the US it's almost a online presence only camera, while spec-wise it's general consumer oriented.



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Feb 01, 2013 10:18 |  #4
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Too little .. Too Late .. Too Slow ... Too Expensive !
Standard Canon Marketing.
They should admit the same on their DSLR's.


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Feb 01, 2013 10:19 |  #5

EL_PIC wrote in post #15559958 (external link)
They should admit the same on their DSLR's.

They might if their DSLRs were actually selling poorly.


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Feb 01, 2013 10:33 |  #6

tkbslc wrote in post #15559962 (external link)
They might if their DSLRs were actually selling poorly.

Canon DSLR sales are selling poorly. Canon across the board is doing poorly. In Q3 of 2012 they pretty much stated that the 5DMkIII did little to help their falling sales. There are many factors that affect their bottom line like exchange rates, the economy, floods and such, but they have not done well in some time and 2013 does not look better for them.


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Feb 01, 2013 10:49 |  #7

Canon still makes about 3x what Nikon does, so I suppose "poor" would have to be defined.


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Feb 01, 2013 11:46 |  #8

Just about every manufacturer in the world would love to do as poorly as Canon is doing right now.


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Feb 01, 2013 12:21 |  #9

Look at the chicken little posts.


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Feb 01, 2013 12:56 |  #10

Canon has been on a downward trend for the last several years, as far as I'm concerned. If I weren't so heavily invested in Canon lenses, I'd probably just sell it all and pick up a D600.


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Feb 01, 2013 13:10 |  #11

Tony-S wrote in post #15560610 (external link)
Canon has been on a downward trend for the last several years, ...

That they have. In 2010 you heard phrases like "Canon destroyed Nikon in 2010 global DSLR market share" with a nearly %50 market share. Today it's "Canon still in the lead" but by one or two percentage points. It's not as if the sky is falling but from once not so long ago being the market leader in every market niche Canon has let them all slip pretty much across the board. The EOS M is a down right embarrassment when compared to the competition especially considering how late they came to the party. It would not surprise me if 2013 is the year Canon looses market leadership in the DSLR market segment.


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Feb 01, 2013 13:40 |  #12

I don't know how they expect the M to compete with Fuji X and Sony NEX. It's like the Cubs vs. well, anyone.




  
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Feb 01, 2013 13:45 |  #13

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I don't know how they expect the M to compete with Fuji X and Sony NEX. It's like the Cubs vs. well, anyone.

I saw the Cubs play the Naperville Little league allstars. They Cubs almost won.


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Feb 01, 2013 14:27 |  #14
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tkbslc wrote in post #15560089 (external link)
Canon still makes about 3x what Nikon does, so I suppose "poor" would have to be defined.

gjl711 wrote in post #15560658 (external link)
That they have. In 2010 you heard phrases like "Canon destroyed Nikon in 2010 global DSLR market share" with a nearly %50 market share. Today it's "Canon still in the lead" but by one or two percentage points. It's not as if the sky is falling but from once not so long ago being the market leader in every market niche Canon has let them all slip pretty much across the board. The EOS M is a down right embarrassment when compared to the competition especially considering how late they came to the party. It would not surprise me if 2013 is the year Canon looses market leadership in the DSLR market segment.

Seems a Slight Contradiction between these two statements - LoL !
Only the blind slighted would say or lie with the first one.
Canon is just resting on its laurels.


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Feb 01, 2013 14:57 |  #15

Data says otherwise, at least based on Japanese data from 2012. If you know data for other markets, please link to it:

http://www.sansmirror.​com …eliminary-2012-numbe.html (external link)

In Japan, Canon had almost 29% of the total interchangeable market. Nikon had 25%. But, 1/4 of Nikon's sales came from the Nikon 1 (again in Japan). So that would put them at more like 19% just for DSLR cameras. Canon only had 2% of their sales come from the EOS M, so their DSLR figures would be in the 28% range.

So 28% vs 19% in Japan for DSLR in Japan. Is Canon really losing DSLR crown?

Yes, the EOS M is a flop, even against the small sensor Nikon 1, but just speaking in terms of DSLR sales, I don't know if I can agree with your doomsday predictions. Japan is a big enough market, I think we can use it as a reliable example.


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