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Dog Show ... What Lenses?

 
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Jan 29, 2013 14:30 |  #1

I've done a few dog show shoots before but not in a few years. Get to play photographer for a breed publication at the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show in two weeks. I have an idea what lenses to bring but thought I'd get some other opinions.

Will be shooting with my 5DMKII and bring my 24-70L, 70-200L and probably my 17-40L. Any other thoughts?

Only doing ringside shots and not the winners shots ... no flash, either (though I probably will bring one)


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Jan 29, 2013 14:50 |  #2

I would leave the 17-40 at home and consider renting a 70-300L. JMHO.


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Jan 29, 2013 15:14 |  #3

First, if it were me I'd leave my 5DII at home (unless light levels are so low that ISO 6400 or higher would be necessary... if possible, go scope out the venue and do some tests in advance).

I suggest you take your 7D instead.

At most, I might take the 5DII along as backup, and maybe put the 17-40 on it for some wider shots, if needed.

I'd almost certainly use 70-200/2.8 IS the most. (The f4-5.6 of the 70-300L will likely make it impossible for a lot of indoor purposes. Same with the 100-400 you already have.)

Take a 1.4X along, too, if you have one.

Take your 24-70/2.8.

Also your 50/1.8 and 85/1.8 might come in real handy!

I'd pack my flash, too... just in case.


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Jan 29, 2013 16:15 |  #4

Nothing to add to the discussion, but I still wanted to say, "Have Fun!" Sounds like a great time.

I always love the labrador ring at dog shows, and Westminster is pretty darned cool as far as shows go.




  
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Jan 29, 2013 16:46 |  #5

I would go with 70-200 on the 7d, 24-70 on 5dii on my shoulder with the 550ex. Ofc. I am assuming you can't use it ring side.

Bringing the 17-40 is pretty redundant as the 24-70 will do the majority of the 17-40's work. Not to mention it is a much faster lens for indoor work.

I agree a 70-300 will be way to slow for indoor. Not to mention it being a lesser lens as far as sharpness goes to the 70-200 IS mki.


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Jan 29, 2013 18:34 |  #6

johneo wrote in post #15548764 (external link)
I've done a few dog show shoots before but not in a few years. Get to play photographer for a breed publication at the Westminster Kennel Club Dog Show in two weeks. I have an idea what lenses to bring but thought I'd get some other opinions.

Will be shooting with my 5DMKII and bring my 24-70L, 70-200L and probably my 17-40L. Any other thoughts?

Only doing ringside shots and not the winners shots ... no flash, either (though I probably will bring one)

A good starting point is the ubiquitous 70-200mm f/2.8, which was used for these dog show images.

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Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Lens: 70-200mm
Image Date: 2012-02-10 10:54:09 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 154.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0050 s (1/200)
ISO equiv: 320
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Photographer: Kevin Lillard
Copyright: Kevin Lillard
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Camera Maker: Canon
Camera Model: Canon EOS REBEL T2i
Lens: 70-200mm
Image Date: 2012-02-10 10:51:31 (no TZ)
Focal Length: 200.0mm
Aperture: f/3.2
Exposure Time: 0.0050 s (1/200)
ISO equiv: 800
Exposure Bias: none
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB


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Focal Length: 86.0mm
Aperture: f/2.8
Exposure Time: 0.0080 s (1/125)
ISO equiv: 640
Exposure Bias: none
White Balance: Auto
Flash Fired: No (enforced)
Orientation: Normal
Color Space: sRGB
GPS Coordinate: undefined, undefined



  
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Feb 02, 2013 10:23 |  #7

I hung around at a dog show on a very dark day with no supplementary lighting. It was held under cover due to storms. When the dogs were in the ring I needed the 70-200 2.8 because of the distances. Anything shorter would have been useless. I found the best photo ops were outside the ring in the grooming areas 'off-stage' and where the dogs queued up waiting for their turn in the ring.

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Feb 02, 2013 10:43 |  #8

70-200mm f2.8L IS II should have "Perfect for Dog Shows" printed right on the box.


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Feb 02, 2013 10:51 |  #9

My wife and I are both AKC Judges (she does conformation, I am a judge for agility) -- I would bring your 70-200 2.8 but also consider that 85 1.8 -- I've used the 85mm at many dog shows on my 40D with great results although it is a little long - -on your 5D it may be perfect. The Garden floor is difficult lighting so you might appreciate that extra stop or so, and with the distracting background some narrower DOF may give you some great shots. Frankly though, some of my favorite conformation ring shots were with my 200 f2.8 (!!) standing back -- have fun. This is the pinnicale of the conformation sport and is an exciting (and busy!) show. I've been honored to judge the finals of the American Kennel Club National Agility trial in March in Tulsa
-- and appreciate the conformation side and the excitement in New York!




  
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Feb 02, 2013 15:08 as a reply to  @ dnauer's post |  #10

70-200 all day long on your crop

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Feb 02, 2013 17:07 |  #11

You are in luck with the much improved lighting at MSG as part of their "transformation". If you have shot in the building previously you are in for a treat!

I will be working there this year on the 11th and 12th. I would suggest you bring something with plenty of reach like the Canon 930mm f/1.7 that I will be using. I can let you try it out if you'd like.


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Feb 02, 2013 17:43 |  #12

The 70-300L would be my choice. I dont have any of these on my Flickr so I can only link to my facebook albums (Sorry) but here are three dog sporting events I covered with this lens stuck to my camera the whole time:

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http://www.facebook.co​m …42.168335779896​333&type=3 (external link)

If you are shooting outdoor events, it is perfect. The reach is very useful. Indoors in not-so-great lighting, without being allowed to use a flash, I would say you will want something around f/2.8 - I've used this lens indoors with a flash without a problem, but if those are the rules, those are the rules. Have fun!


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