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Feb 04, 2013 10:50 |  #16

its a great software, which unfotunately remains a pain to work with 5d3.


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Feb 04, 2013 11:25 |  #17

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Can I asked how you printed the chart? I really wish for a small fee, they would send you a really good quality chart?

Also - what did you use for lighting?

laser printer... it prints fine as hell. no way can your camera lens outresolve the pattern from the distance you shoot.

as for lighting, ambient near a window.

I'm sure a spot light would work too if ambient not an option. Just make sure the lighting is stable.


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Feb 04, 2013 12:55 |  #18

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laser printer... it prints fine as hell. no way can your camera lens outresolve the pattern from the distance you shoot.

as for lighting, ambient near a window.

I'm sure a spot light would work too if ambient not an option. Just make sure the lighting is stable.

And not LED. They mention something about the flickering throwing off results.


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Feb 04, 2013 14:03 |  #19

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I have the pro. I just wish I didn't have to pay 90 dollars to use it for 2 days now it sits. That's all. I feel I need to buy more lenses just to get the most out of my software

I see what you mean, but I just thought about it. How many folks out there would pay Canon $110 to expertly calibrate every lens they own and all future lens purchases? If Canon offered that right now, thousands and thousands of photographers would be standing in line. That's exactly what this software does.

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Feb 04, 2013 14:26 |  #20

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I see what you mean, but I just thought about it. How many folks out there would pay Canon $110 to expertly calibrate every lens they own and all future lens purchases? If Canon offered that right now, thousands and thousands of photographers would be standing in line. That's exactly what this software does.

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no I get it. really and it really DOES make a difference. its money well spent and I would do it again in a heart beat. its just unfourtante that now it just isnt used




  
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Feb 04, 2013 15:04 |  #21

Lichter21c wrote in post #15571648 (external link)
no I get it. really and it really DOES make a difference. its money well spent and I would do it again in a heart beat. its just unfourtante that now it just isnt used

I only got this software recently and so far it looks amazing.

Thing is lenses and cameras do drift out of tolerance with use and mine gets a lot of use so I don't see it as a one off, every 3/4 months I can spend a hour to give me piece of mind my kit is operating to its best ability.


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Feb 04, 2013 15:15 |  #22

I just purchased the Plus version..Going to see how well it does


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Feb 04, 2013 15:22 |  #23

I also just bought it a few weeks ago. While I was reading about, I learned that there is a discount page. If anybody is planning to buy, check out this link if you don't know already:

http://www.reikan.co.u​k/focal/mbp45/ (external link)




  
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Feb 04, 2013 15:45 |  #24

I get very mixed results with this program. The only accurate way to use it is outdoors in natural light. Otherwise you get indoor biased MA values.


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Feb 04, 2013 18:15 |  #25

I experienced that on my 5D3 with the manual method as well.

Although I seldom shot under tungsten lighting even before it was banned here, it just so happened that when I set to adjust the 85/1.8, a 100W tungsten lamp was the most handy. Big disappointment when I shot in daylight (overcast) the following day! If I remember well, tungsten shifted the adjustment by +6 points compared to what I later got by the same method in daylight.

I hope I won't find out that my beloved 5D3 requires a specific AFMA setting for every 1000K step of daylight color temperature.




  
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Feb 04, 2013 18:53 |  #26

I guess I'm the only one who thinks this SW is a waste of money. I spent my $$ and used it to MA several lenses on my 7D. A couple of them were reported as being not reliable enough to compute a solution. I know these lenses and they have NOT been an issue. The SW just could not figure it out. Others came up with an MA adjustment that was pretty much were I had set it with the tried & true manual methods.

Installing the SW on my laptop was a minor pain. Shooting tethered was a pain. Results were sketchy at best. Lots of work for very little results. Oh, and it did LOTS of shutter actuations.

Maybe I need to try again with better printed target. Maybe I need to do it using daylight (not a halogen work light). Maybe I need to try it again on summer solstice while I face east. At this point, I'd need to re-register the SW since I've changed bodies.


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Feb 04, 2013 19:09 |  #27

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I guess I'm the only one who thinks this SW is a waste of money. I spent my $$ and used it to MA several lenses on my 7D. A couple of them were reported as being not reliable enough to compute a solution. I know these lenses and they have NOT been an issue. The SW just could not figure it out. Others came up with an MA adjustment that was pretty much were I had set it with the tried & true manual methods.

Installing the SW on my laptop was a minor pain. Shooting tethered was a pain. Results were sketchy at best. Lots of work for very little results. Oh, and it did LOTS of shutter actuations.

Maybe I need to try again with better printed target. Maybe I need to do it using daylight (not a halogen work light). Maybe I need to try it again on summer solstice while I face east. At this point, I'd need to re-register the SW since I've changed bodies.

The only time the software was unable to come up with a definitive and repeatable MA value was with 2 lens that Canon eventually deemed to have malfunctioning AF systems. Got those two lens back from Canon and the software worked its magic flawlessly and determined an optimal MA.

FWIW, I've actually been using two 500watt halogen work lamps with accurate results carrying over into overcast, daylight, and fluorescent lighting. I'm not sure if the type of light source makes as much difference as having an adequate +EV. Can't remember where I saw it, but there is a recommended minimum EV. I don't really see how the type of light could cause a consistent (+) or (-) biased for MA values...would be interested in discussing the theory/logic behind that.

Other things that I've tinkered with it increasing the mirror lock-up delay to 3 seconds to further avoid any camera shake...especially useful at 200-400mm. For the target, I printed on card stock paper, inkjet printer only, then pasted it to a sturdy piece of cardboard, and place the lights as close to the target as possible.

The one downside I've found is that there apparently is something about the 5D3 firmware that will never be compatible with "full-auto" adjustment, according to the developer. Still, I'm able to adjust a zoom lens for the wide end and telephoto end in less than 10 minutes from setup to finish.



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Feb 04, 2013 19:25 as a reply to  @ mannetti21's post |  #28
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I too use the Pro version on Windows 8 for my 6D with no issues other than slight inconsistencies (2-3 points) when re-profiling the same lens under identical circumstances.


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Feb 05, 2013 00:05 |  #29

shine1 wrote in post #15571828 (external link)
I also just bought it a few weeks ago. While I was reading about, I learned that there is a discount page. If anybody is planning to buy, check out this link if you don't know already:

http://www.reikan.co.u​k/focal/mbp45/ (external link)

Thank you!! I just purchased the software through the link you provided and saved over $40. That's a significant discount!

All of my computers are Mac, but if I have any trouble with the Mac beta version, then I'll just borrow a friend's PC to calibrate all of my lenses.

Again, much appreciated!
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Feb 05, 2013 05:44 |  #30

Lichter21c wrote in post #15570535 (external link)
I have the pro. I just wish I didn't have to pay 90 dollars to use it for 2 days now it sits. That's all. I feel I need to buy more lenses just to get the most out of my software

No, don't do that. Get a new camera - then you get to retest all of your lenses again!


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