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Feb 04, 2013 09:36 |  #1

Hello fellow potn people!

I have a sticky situation, i ordered the 30mm 1.4 sigma last weekend, as i need a proper fast prime lens, i have a baby coming in three weeks and i really want some beautiful pictures from the hospital etc. I also have a gig coming up which is located in a fairly dark studio, shooting band members as they try to come up with new material.

BUT the order backfired! They are out of stock. The sigma would be perfect for my needs right now. All other sellers are selling it for 400€, which is expensive considering that i would've gotten it for under 300 euros. And the new version is coming up, but i dont have time for that! What should i do, cash out the money for the sigma? I also thought about a 50mm 1.4, maybe canon or sigma.. but i already have the nifty fifty. The focal length is kinda narrow for indoor shooting, which i got coming for me. Goosh! Maybe i should purchase something that wont lose its value in the next two months, which the sigma 30mm is bound to do. My budget is 400 euros.

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Feb 04, 2013 09:56 |  #2

I don't play with this focal length a lot. What I can think is:
1. canon 28 1.8
2. sigma has 28, 24, 20 @ 1.8, no idea of the price at your place
3. tamron nonvc or sigma 17-50 os


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Feb 04, 2013 10:14 |  #3

if you arent firm on getting a prime, i would suggest the tamron non-vc or sigma 17-50 os as well. i used my 2.8 zoom when my daughter was born wide open and did just fine.

to be honest, most of my pics in the hospital were with a point and shoot and an iphone. with all of the commotion, you wont be bringing out your SLR as much as you think.


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Feb 04, 2013 10:37 |  #4

The 50 1.4 did fine for my daughter when she was first born, and I got some amazing shots with it, but now that she and her older brother are both older and craaaazy i find the 50 1.4 to be really limited, which is why I took the plunge on the 17-55. The suggestion of the Canon 28mm 1.8 is a good one if you want something in about the same focal length.

For kids, I find primes just be more of an issue than they are worth. Your daughter will be easy to photograph..now..but when she's up and running around you'll find that needing to move around constantly to keep her in the frame is either difficult or impossible and a good quality standard zoom would suit you better. As others mentioned, the Sigma or Tamron 17-50 variants are other good options, unless you really need that full light from a super wide aperture that only a prime can provide.


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Feb 04, 2013 10:56 |  #5

Babies are small so a 50/1.4 would work just as well as a 30/1.4 for them. The harder part would be the gig you have coming up. Would 50 work for that?

Do you have a speed light? Your current 50/1.8 stopped down to 2.8 would work great for the baby stuff if you bounced a speedlite behind you off a white ceiling and not be harsh for either mommy or baby. Even the kit lens with bounced flash would give good shots.

Another option would be the older 35/2. I don't think a 2.8 zoom would be fast enough if you are not going to supplement it with flash.


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Feb 04, 2013 11:12 |  #6

Thanks for the tips guys! I already have a 3 year old son, and believe me, i have been chasing my ass off trying to get shots of him. I'm a true sucker for primes, and wouldn't have done it any other way. I love the images the nifty fifty has given me, my kit lens really havent left the bag..

I have a craving for a f/1.4 lens, as i also love to do concert photography. I'm now thinking of buying the canon 50 1.4 lens, selling the nifty and maybe save out for the new sigma 30mm 1.4..

Do you guys think that i'll notice any difference in IQ with the switch from nifty to the 1.4 canon?


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Feb 04, 2013 11:44 |  #7

Maizzi wrote in post #15570916 (external link)
Do you guys think that i'll notice any difference in IQ with the switch from nifty to the 1.4 canon?

In having just upgraded myself, I did some side by side tests this weekend and there is a noticable difference between 1.8 and 2.5. Its not real huge but still noticable. At 2.8 and beyond, both are so sharp you are splitting hairs. The biggest difference for me so far is the much more accurate AF on the 1.4.


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Feb 04, 2013 11:53 |  #8

FEChariot wrote in post #15570880 (external link)
Babies are small so a 50/1.4 would work just as well as a 30/1.4 for them. The harder part would be the gig you have coming up. Would 50 work for that?

Do you have a speed light? Your current 50/1.8 stopped down to 2.8 would work great for the baby stuff if you bounced a speedlite behind you off a white ceiling and not be harsh for either mommy or baby. Even the kit lens with bounced flash would give good shots.

Another option would be the older 35/2. I don't think a 2.8 zoom would be fast enough if you are not going to supplement it with flash.

Hey, sorry i missed your post. I do have an old manual flash, which i love to bounce from seiling/walls, its a good teqhnique, and about the only way i use my kit lens, if a wider angle is needed. :)

As far as the gig goes, it would be better to have the 30mm, but i think 50mm would suffice, its a fairly open space studio.. the f/1.4 would really come in handy for more artistic shots in there.

I have been thinking of the canon 35/2 BUT, as im eventually gonna buy the newer sigma, i think its wiser to go for the 50mm/1.4 now to replace my nifty.


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Feb 04, 2013 12:45 |  #9

Look around for a used Sigma 30mm lens - they must be coming down in price really fast.


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Feb 04, 2013 13:31 |  #10

pulsar123 wrote in post #15571244 (external link)
Look around for a used Sigma 30mm lens - they must be coming down in price really fast.

Honestly, I'd wait for the Sigma 30 (hmmm - actually, I did!). I love my 15-85mm, but the Sigma at f/1.4 is just superb for indoor work without flash. Another thought is to pick up a used Nifty Fifty locally to tide you over. You can sell it later.


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Feb 04, 2013 15:01 |  #11

Its official, i am the most impatient person there is. I just ordered the canon 50mm 1.4. Time for the nifty fifty to retire! :) thanks for the tips everyone. :)


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Feb 04, 2013 17:34 |  #12

OK, i am now having second thoughts. I'm thinking, is the difference between 50 1.8 and 50 1.4 worth it?


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Feb 04, 2013 17:40 |  #13

In my opinion. No.
If I would buy all the equipment again and I can only have one lens on a crop body. I will buy a 17-55 IS, simply the best. Or sigma 17-50 OS, not far behind, and cheaper. You'll be happy for long time.
If you prefer prime, that's another story. I feel 50mm is too long on a crop for in door shooting. 30mm is much, much better


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Feb 04, 2013 18:10 |  #14

skycolt wrote in post #15572371 (external link)
In my opinion. No.
If I would buy all the equipment again and I can only have one lens on a crop body. I will buy a 17-55 IS, simply the best. Or sigma 17-50 OS, not far behind, and cheaper. You'll be happy for long time.
If you prefer prime, that's another story. I feel 50mm is too long on a crop for in door shooting. 30mm is much, much better

I really am a prime man (no pun intended). I respect your opinion, and i actually cancelled my order on the 50mm, as i found another store that sells the old 30mm sigma for under 300 euros. But the order might take a few weeks, so its touch and go if it gets here on time. Thumbs up.


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Feb 04, 2013 18:26 |  #15

skycolt wrote in post #15572371 (external link)
In my opinion. No.
If I would buy all the equipment again and I can only have one lens on a crop body. I will buy a 17-55 IS, simply the best. Or sigma 17-50 OS, not far behind, and cheaper. You'll be happy for long time.
If you prefer prime, that's another story. I feel 50mm is too long on a crop for in door shooting. 30mm is much, much better

He asked if it was worth the difference between the 1.8 and 1.4. Your reasoning seems to have nothing to do with the question.


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