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Feb 04, 2013 09:20 |  #31

Canvas it is then, sorry one more question you've been a massive help thus far. can you put a dslr in the side pocket of the f2? body only of course
Also is the j2 a good bag? its only slightly bigger then the f2 and would be handy if i need to carry a second body (if the f2 cant hold 2 bodies with the three 2.8 lenses )


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Feb 04, 2013 09:34 |  #32

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Holy crap...that fits alot of stuff!
How'd it go for the travelling?

It travels very well. Easy to carry, never a problem fitting it in airplanes, including the small, commuter planes, and it is easy to work from. Mine has been to many places and it still looks great. Also, I think the problems with the plastic strap holders has been overstated in this thread. Search the other Domke threads, you will not find this mentioned as a problem often.

You had a question about a body fitting in a side pocket. I think you could do that if you needed to and the body did not have a grip. I never have. I get two large bodies in my main compartment, a 1D IV and a 5D II with grip plus 4 lenses. One thing to note, I have not been able to get a big hood in the bag so my 70-200 or for Africa 100-400 hood ends up packed with my clothes.


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Feb 04, 2013 09:49 |  #33

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It travels very well. Easy to carry, never a problem fitting it in airplanes, including the small, commuter planes, and it is easy to work from. Mine has been to many places and it still looks great. Also, I think the problems with the plastic strap holders has been overstated in this thread. Search the other Domke threads, you will not find this mentioned as a problem often.

You had a question about a body fitting in a side pocket. I think you could do that if you needed to and the body did not have a grip. I never have. I get two large bodies in my main compartment, a 1D IV and a 5D II with grip plus 4 lenses. One thing to note, I have not been able to get a big hood in the bag so my 70-200 or for Africa 100-400 hood ends up packed with my clothes.

If i can fit two bodies in the main compartment thats even better, i just want to be able to carry a 16-35 2.8 or 50 1.2 (depending on what im doing) 24-70 2.8 and a 70-200 2.8

would those 3 lenses fit into the main compartment? also hoods or no hoods with that setup?

thanks


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Feb 04, 2013 09:57 |  #34

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I was thinking of just getting metal rings and welding/solder it so its a solid metal ring instead of the plastic ones. im really liking the domke f2 still so confused what to do haha have to make up my mind. i haven't spoken to anyone who has had both, would help a lot if someone has experienced both and have their say

so the only plastic parts on the bag are on the main strap?

I have an F2, an F3X and had a Retro 10 by Think Tank. I made a mistake and took the Retro10 to Cape Cod. Whilethere I walked a lot. Issue? The raincover. Spring time, and a forecasted Atlantic storm. I put the raincover on the bag. It effectively sealed my camera in the bag. I hated the experience. I sold the bag when I returned to Toronto. Beautifully made bag as long as the raincover is off. My fault. It just doesn't suit the way I work.

Domke makes incredible bags. (I have 4 Think Tank bags. I didn't check the raincover out, as I should have.)


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Feb 04, 2013 13:06 |  #35

I've never used my retro 30 with the raincover on. If it's raining enough to need the raincover, I consider that more of a protection feature for during the travel, not so much a working bag that's suddenly more weatherproof.
In other words, I consider the effect you mention of sealing the bag off as an intended feature.


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Feb 04, 2013 16:40 |  #36

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I've never used my retro 30 with the raincover on. If it's raining enough to need the raincover, I consider that more of a protection feature for during the travel, not so much a working bag that's suddenly more weatherproof.
In other words, I consider the effect you mention of sealing the bag off as an intended feature.

No criticism implied....I'm glad you're confident.

When I returned I asked that TT's representative who used to post here about exposing the TT retro to rain without the raincover and never received an answer that left me confident. I considered a Retro10 with a different fabric too. I simply chose the wrong bags for my needs--a shooters bag for active shooting with impending bad weather. If I had tried the raincover onion the store I would never have bought the Retro bag. YMMV.

During travel my bags are always well protected. They are not exposed to rain, let alone Atlantic storms on Cape Cod in early May. We set out from the hotel and walked 5 miles back to town, site seeing, then walked 5 miles back to the hotel. after the trip I came home, and bought my first Billingham. They're waterproof shooter's bags. Wish I had it for the Cape Cod trip. I do still have 4 Think Tank bags.

I should have taken my Domke bag instead.


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Feb 04, 2013 23:02 |  #37

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If i can fit two bodies in the main compartment thats even better, i just want to be able to carry a 16-35 2.8 or 50 1.2 (depending on what im doing) 24-70 2.8 and a 70-200 2.8

would those 3 lenses fit into the main compartment? also hoods or no hoods with that setup?

thanks

Two bodies and 4 lenses fit in the main compartment of my F2. A gripped 5DII and 1DIV go out to the sides, the 4 compartment divider is in the center with a 24-105, 16-35, 70-200 and 50 1.4 often in mine.

The 50 can have the hood on, the 24-105 and 16-36 hoods go into one of the side pockets and the 70-200 hood does not fit. That leaves you the other side and the two front pockets for other stuff.

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Here it is loaded. The top left lens is a 100L macro with the hood on. That is the compartment I usually put my 70-200 in. The 70-200 will extend above the divider walls but will be covered easily by the top flap. It has never been a problem for me.

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Feb 05, 2013 00:44 |  #38

bpalermini wrote in post #15573513 (external link)
Two bodies and 4 lenses fit in the main compartment of my F2. A gripped 5DII and 1DIV go out to the sides, the 4 compartment divider is in the center with a 24-105, 16-35, 70-200 and 50 1.4 often in mine.

The 50 can have the hood on, the 24-105 and 16-36 hoods go into one of the side pockets and the 70-200 hood does not fit. That leaves you the other side and the two front pockets for other stuff.

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Here it is loaded. The top left lens is a 100L macro with the hood on. That is the compartment I usually put my 70-200 in. The 70-200 will extend above the divider walls but will be covered easily by the top flap. It has never been a problem for me.

That looks comfortable for such a full bag. However, the problem (if you consider it a problem) with describing a bags capacity as 2 bodies and 4 lenses comes with the implicit notion that it's 2 bodies with the lens cap on, and 4 lenses "not on a body". I personally find it very impractical to have to detach my lenses to fit everything in the bag, because it means you can't really be on the go like that.

That's quite a huge difference from a working bag where you could comfortably fit two large bodies with for example a 24-70 and a 70-200 attached. For that you could be better off with the Domke F-7.


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Feb 05, 2013 03:16 |  #39

bpalermini wrote in post #15573513 (external link)
Two bodies and 4 lenses fit in the main compartment of my F2. A gripped 5DII and 1DIV go out to the sides, the 4 compartment divider is in the center with a 24-105, 16-35, 70-200 and 50 1.4 often in mine.

The 50 can have the hood on, the 24-105 and 16-36 hoods go into one of the side pockets and the 70-200 hood does not fit. That leaves you the other side and the two front pockets for other stuff.

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Here it is loaded. The top left lens is a 100L macro with the hood on. That is the compartment I usually put my 70-200 in. The 70-200 will extend above the divider walls but will be covered easily by the top flap. It has never been a problem for me.

Thanks for that exactly what i was looking for huge help!!!
Btw is that the black canvas or nylon?


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Feb 05, 2013 03:19 |  #40

TweakMDS wrote in post #15573742 (external link)
That looks comfortable for such a full bag. However, the problem (if you consider it a problem) with describing a bags capacity as 2 bodies and 4 lenses comes with the implicit notion that it's 2 bodies with the lens cap on, and 4 lenses "not on a body". I personally find it very impractical to have to detach my lenses to fit everything in the bag, because it means you can't really be on the go like that.

That's quite a huge difference from a working bag where you could comfortably fit two large bodies with for example a 24-70 and a 70-200 attached. For that you could be better off with the Domke F-7.

i do like the idea of the f7 with 2 bodys with lenses attached but after looking at it, it is too long for my liking. The only reason why i want the capacity of having two bodies is when i shoot a wedding i would like to have a spare body in the bag while the other one will be in my hand, Then when i pack up i don't mind if the lenses aren't attached.

Thanks for mentioning the f7 might be on my list in the future.


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Feb 05, 2013 08:41 |  #41

TweakMDS wrote in post #15573742 (external link)
That looks comfortable for such a full bag. However, the problem (if you consider it a problem) with describing a bags capacity as 2 bodies and 4 lenses comes with the implicit notion that it's 2 bodies with the lens cap on, and 4 lenses "not on a body". I personally find it very impractical to have to detach my lenses to fit everything in the bag, because it means you can't really be on the go like that.

That's quite a huge difference from a working bag where you could comfortably fit two large bodies with for example a 24-70 and a 70-200 attached. For that you could be better off with the Domke F-7.

I understand what you are saying but that's what I have a strap on my camera for. Way back I was a photojournalist I carried two bodies on straps over my shoulders and a bag for the extras. I'm still doing that when I'm shooting.

Mine is the classic canvas.


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Feb 05, 2013 10:01 as a reply to  @ bpalermini's post |  #42

im thinking about getting the ballistic nylon one it seems to be best of both worlds, has the ruggedness and toughness of ballistic nylon plus has canvas panels on the rear of the bag to protect cloths from abrasion. The j series only comes in ballistic nylon which says to me that it is better with the elements then canvas (because the j series is for photojournalists)
or just end up with the j2 haha


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Feb 05, 2013 17:46 |  #43

bpalermini wrote in post #15574564 (external link)
I understand what you are saying but that's what I have a strap on my camera for. Way back I was a photojournalist I carried two bodies on straps over my shoulders and a bag for the extras. I'm still doing that when I'm shooting.

Mine is the classic canvas.

my only issue with this (i shot PJ pre-Air Force and IN the Air Force) is not being able to shove the camera in the bag if i need to 'un-sling' it for some reason. i love my F2 but ended up with a new F7 so i can leave the lens on...




  
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