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Feb 04, 2013 12:57 as a reply to  @ post 15570386 |  #16

I'm in the same boat as the OP (need new tripod, tall and even located in the same area :)) and thanks to TVPHOTOG's review of the Feisol 3441T I have found my new tripod.

Thanks to both of you!




  
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Feb 04, 2013 15:36 |  #17

I have FEISOL 3442 and love it. You can search my post if you are interested why I choose 3442 over 3441


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Feb 05, 2013 13:40 |  #18

Interesting post about Gitzo vs Feisol
http://www.naturescape​s.net …s/viewtopic.php​?p=1361292 (external link)


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Feb 05, 2013 14:43 |  #19

mannyhan wrote in post #15575565 (external link)
Interesting post about Gitzo vs Feisol
http://www.naturescape​s.net …s/viewtopic.php​?p=1361292 (external link)

I'm not sure how relevant much of it is five years later.


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Feb 05, 2013 15:49 |  #20

peter_n wrote in post #15567355 (external link)
As above; a Gitzo 2-series like the 2542L with a max height of 69" but only folds to 24" and weighs 3.1 lbs. A Markins Q10 would be a suitable head for it. The new Feisols have milled aluminum bases and are worth looking at.

Oh? Interesting. Milled apexes have been, imo, RRS's ace in the hole. There are quite a few upgrades RRS tripods have over Gitzo sticks, but milled bases is the number one. I've expected the high-end market to move over to milled bases, but it's great to see the mid-range go that route. That's impressive because, compared to casting, milling ain't cheap.

If true, that's a significant line item upgrade Feisol has over Gitzo and other Gitzo clones.


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Feb 05, 2013 17:29 |  #21

mannyhan wrote in post #15575565 (external link)
Interesting post about Gitzo vs Feisol
http://www.naturescape​s.net …s/viewtopic.php​?p=1361292 (external link)

Not really relevant anymore though. Feisol's quality has improved leaps and bounds since then. You will have trouble finding a recent post about Feisol having quality issues.


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Feb 06, 2013 07:28 |  #22

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #15576182 (external link)
If true, that's a significant line item upgrade Feisol has over Gitzo and other Gitzo clones.

I agree.


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Feb 06, 2013 20:41 |  #23

I've seen some complain about their quality few years ago with leg separation from the base and legs getting locked, of course nothing is full proof. I thought it was interesting article how not all CF tripods are manufactured to same quaility standard. IMHO RRS is hard to beat!


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Feb 06, 2013 20:55 |  #24

mannyhan wrote in post #15581222 (external link)
I've seen some complain about their quality few years ago with leg separation from the base

That was addressed by Feisol somewhere I can't remember, but they said the cause was use of an improper glue/bonding agent or something along those lines which was missed in QC, which has been fixed. Never saw anything about the legs locking up?


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Feb 06, 2013 20:59 |  #25

mannyhan wrote in post #15581222 (external link)
IMHO RRS is hard to beat!

Why?

Aside from the company videos on there tripods, its very hard to find real world reviews. I would not mind paying so much for a product, but before I do, I need to know why, and I just can't seem to find that answer.


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Feb 06, 2013 21:46 |  #26

I have been dealing with Spencer at RRS for the last week. I guess you can say I'm sleeping on it, I have a hard time saying yes to a $3600+ order and still have to pay $60 for UPS Ground.


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Feb 06, 2013 21:49 |  #27

I second an earlier poster's suggestion of a 3 legged thing. I just ordered a 3 legged thing Jack. Here is the link for the specs (external link). They have a carbon fiber version of the same tripod, Eric, but the only difference is its slightly heavier, less than .5 lbs, weight. They extend up to roughly 7ft. I wouldnt put my camera at 7ft but it makes a great speedlight stand at that height and it goes all the way down to approx. 5" off the ground. They are also completely modular so you can tear them apart completely to clean them or replace an individual part if needed. They also come with a 5 year warranty which is reassuring. It also folds up to only 19"!


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Feb 06, 2013 21:53 |  #28

mafoo wrote in post #15581267 (external link)
Why?

Aside from the company videos on there tripods, its very hard to find real world reviews. I would not mind paying so much for a product, but before I do, I need to know why, and I just can't seem to find that answer.

There were a few really thorough reviews, linked in the RRS Tripod thread, that showed vibration numbers and such. Comparing the TVC-33 to a 5-series Gitzo and the TVC-33 was superior in all aspects that affect IQ. It was a resourced blog so good luck googling it - just check out that thread.

That, and if you ever held one beside a Gitzo, the quality difference is apparent.


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Feb 07, 2013 13:21 |  #29

mannyhan wrote in post #15581222 (external link)
IMHO RRS is hard to beat!

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Why? Aside from the company videos on there tripods, its very hard to find real world reviews. I would not mind paying so much for a product, but before I do, I need to know why, and I just can't seem to find that answer.

Well, first there are many very brief but positive reports from the company's customers, of which the top quote is typical. Normally the internet seems to be top heavy with product complaints, but in the case of RRS the reverse is the case. I have read of a few failures of RRS equipment but generally these are accompanied with a description of how the company acted very quickly to make the customer happy.

Second you have the phenomenon of "if it costs this much it has to be good". This perception is not to be underestimated whatever product you're buying. Of course it's not always true, but it is a pervasive belief.

I have no idea whether or not RRS actively solicits reviews but they probably don't. They only sell out of their own facility and exhibit at one or two photo shows a year, and they have no 3rd party distribution system. There are reviews of Gitzo tripods all over the place but Gitzos are widely distributed and sold in stores so you can go into a store and try one out with your own camera. It's actually quite frustrating that you can't do this with a RRS tripod.

I've never even seen a RRS tripod but if my main tripod breaks I'm likely to replace it with a RRS equivalent and try it out briefly. If I decide not to keep it I'll return it at my own cost or sell it on. I have three RRS products; a 3-series leveling base, an L-plate for my NEX-7 and a lever clamp. All have good construction and work well.


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Feb 07, 2013 13:57 |  #30

peter_n wrote in post #15583560 (external link)
Well, first there are many very brief but positive reports from the company's customers, of which the top quote is typical. Normally the internet seems to be top heavy with product complaints, but in the case of RRS the reverse is the case. I have read of a few failures of RRS equipment but generally these are accompanied with a description of how the company acted very quickly to make the customer happy.

Second you have the phenomenon of "if it costs this much it has to be good". This perception is not to be underestimated whatever product you're buying. Of course it's not always true, but it is a pervasive belief.

I have no idea whether or not RRS actively solicits reviews but they probably don't. They only sell out of their own facility and exhibit at one or two photo shows a year, and they have no 3rd party distribution system. There are reviews of Gitzo tripods all over the place but Gitzos are widely distributed and sold in stores so you can go into a store and try one out with your own camera. It's actually quite frustrating that you can't do this with a RRS tripod.

I've never even seen a RRS tripod but if my main tripod breaks I'm likely to replace it with a RRS equivalent and try it out briefly. If I decide not to keep it I'll return it at my own cost or sell it on. I have three RRS products; a 3-series leveling base, an L-plate for my NEX-7 and a lever clamp. All have good construction and work well.

Thanks for this. However I should have stated what I meant better. I have no doubt whatsoever, that an RSS tripod is an exceptional piece of equipment. However this is true about Gitzo as well.

The RSS TVC-33 is $925.00. The Gitzo GT2532S (the closest thing I can find to it), is $669.98.

Why should I pay $250 more for the RSS? I am not saying I should not, I just have yet to hear a good answer as to why I should. Does it perform better? About the only answer I have gotten that makes sense, is there customer service is better. While that's true, the customer service of the store I can return a local product to for replacement (or who has parts on hand) makes up for that.

Not being argumentative. But if I buy it I want to say to myself "yea, it cost $250 more, but I get xyz for that premium".

Trying to figure out what xyz is.


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