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Feb 07, 2013 12:51 |  #16

@PhilF
haha dude I love your retouching man!!! Also, cant wait to see what you and Irene come up with!

@Ken Robertson
Well, this is an interesting question. With this particular image I worked on it for about 3-4 hours and transferred to a different retoucher I use when I get too busy. So he and I both worked on this elapsing over 8hours.

As a side note, I have a retouching team here. 1 freelancer and one permanent retoucher. For commercial shoots, my permanent retroucher focuses on surfaces and inanimate objects (textures, chrome, reflective objects), while the freelancer finishes off what I start.

As far as payment etc. It is financially feasible for our clients to pay for all of this and it is normal for us to spend 1-2days on image retouching depending on the image. The reason it takes so long for our team is the megapixel count and workflow. I shoot at 39-50 megapixels at 16bit. The clarity of the image is so intense that it prolongs the process right off the bat. We then send it to color correction and preproduction where we print on ORIS.

When it comes to my commercial work, quality is absolutely necessary. With my test shoots with models and agencies i dont spend nearly this amount of time on an image as it doesnt make sense financially.

I hope this helps!!!

Thanks for all the positive words!


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Feb 07, 2013 20:58 |  #17

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Feb 07, 2013 21:07 |  #18

Very nice!




  
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Feb 07, 2013 21:11 |  #19

AlanMura wrote in post #15581138 (external link)
No prob. Just keep in mind that the above image was worked on for over 8 hours.

Please spend another minute to resize it to meet the forum rules so we can all enjoy it :cool:


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Feb 07, 2013 22:19 |  #20

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Please spend another minute to resize it to meet the forum rules so we can all enjoy it :cool:

HAHAAAH! Ok. But the point was to show the detail in the skin... its difficult to tell when its downsized :/ Ill post it none the less but later tonight haha. Ive been here in the studio for 12+ hours and need a beer.

Everyone else thank you very, very much for all the positive words.


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Feb 07, 2013 22:28 |  #21

AlanMura wrote in post #15585362 (external link)
HAHAAAH! Ok. But the point was to show the detail in the skin... its difficult to tell when its downsized :/ Ill post it none the less but later tonight haha. Ive been here in the studio for 12+ hours and need a beer.

Everyone else thank you very, very much for all the positive words.



It's a pretty awesome bit of work, but rules is rules :cool:

Once you've had your beer, what about posting two, one resized and one a crop of the larger image?


Heres to 12 hour days with a beer at the end :cool:


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Feb 08, 2013 00:06 |  #22

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Hey guys! Thanks for all the positive remarks!

@arjay702
lol dont sell your camera! just keep shooting.

ok. As for the lighting setup you can actually see it in her eyes. The only part that is tricky to tell is that the light srouce coming from her right (your left) is a bare strobe w/ cone, shot through a 4x8 scrim. the main light is a large profoto softbox about 2 feet above her head, slightly to her right, cross light. I almost always point the stobes DOWN. I never butterfly or side light... well, rarely. What ends up happening is the main light causes a beautiful hair glow, but harsh chin shadows. So I cross light a bare strobe / skrim to lighten those areas. But its not an exact science... I dont always shoot this way I just prefer to shoot with lights pointing down. The image is also shot stopped down by 1fstop. I raise the exposure in post.

The key to remember is that most people start out and retouch their images in a matter of minutes. A workflow like this:

-heal brush to remove blemishes
-levels to correct contrast and exposure
-duplicate base layer and apply gaussian blur
-reduce gaussian blur opacity

This is a TERRIBLE way.

Heal brush sucks because it removes texture. Small minor blemishes can be removed with it, but if its a dark spot its better to use the clone tool set to lighten mode at 10-15% flow. This way you can select a region that matches the desired tone and merely paint the blemish away by adding texture from another area of the skin.

Anyway, the whole workflow takes hours, and I shot the above image at 40MP so it takes even longer. but patience is crucial with retouching.

anyway, I would be happy to answer any other questions when/if i can.

thanks again for all the positive remarks.

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Feb 08, 2013 00:46 |  #23

^^^
Good.
A bit lengthy for me but your transits are very good with good synchronous audio.
Simple instruction that is well understood but repeatations add to length.

Side note; With edges, you can always use magic wand or lasso tool to select one side (To be processed), then selectively apply Healing tool that will not affect the edge or other side as that is not selected.


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Feb 08, 2013 01:01 |  #24

In regards to the pflearn video.

I think it has some merit. its a good general explanation. persoanlly, i still think a clone stamp set to darken or lighten provides better results. but heal brush is much faster.


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Feb 08, 2013 01:24 |  #25

AlanMura wrote in post #15585808 (external link)
I think it has some merit. its a good general explanation. persoanlly, i still think a clone stamp set to darken or lighten provides better results. but heal brush is much faster.

I'll second that, the heal brush is very good at destroying fine detail.
It works very well on areas where that is not a problem, like removing spots from smooth surfaces, or in images that will be presented at low resolution.

But the Clone stamp still better, just a lot slower.


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Feb 08, 2013 01:35 |  #26

Ken Robertson wrote in post #15582123 (external link)
Whilst it is a nice image - 'over 8 hours' is and extraordinary length to spend on 1 shot - does this really reap you over 1 days salary/income? I take it that excludes the travel time and shooting elapsed time.

What would the rough income be for this shot ?

i know retouchers who charges $75 to $150 per hour..... high end retouching who works with Elle ,
Bazaar, Vouge etc.


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Feb 08, 2013 11:22 |  #27

@Phil Yeah sounds about right.


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