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Feb 07, 2013 15:28 |  #31

Interesting thread, trying to decide on a new tripod myself. Head is buzzing with all the options


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Feb 07, 2013 21:15 |  #32

I went ahead and placed my order today with Spencer at RRS. I wonder how the customer service will be now that they have my $3800


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Feb 07, 2013 21:57 |  #33

TheFloridaShooter wrote in post #15585186 (external link)
I went ahead and placed my order today with Spencer at RRS. I wonder how the customer service will be now that they have my $3800

The same as if you spent $30. Their service is the industry standard.

And since I'm a bonafide gear nut, I have to ask - what'dja get?


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Feb 08, 2013 08:34 as a reply to  @ Indecent Exposure's post |  #34

Received my tripod and ball head last night, can't say how happy I am with the purchase. It's an absolute thing of beauty, and so light and compact it makes my Manfroto look like a pair of stilts.

It took all I had not to take it to bed with me to hold through the night. :D

Thanks again for the help,

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Feb 08, 2013 09:10 |  #35

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #15585291 (external link)
And since I'm a bonafide gear nut, I have to ask - what'dja get?

Yes I'm interested too. Do tell!

mafoo wrote in post #15583656 (external link)
The RSS TVC-33 is $925.00. The Gitzo GT2532S (the closest thing I can find to it), is $669.98....

But if I buy it I want to say to myself "yea, it cost $250 more, but I get xyz for that premium". Trying to figure out what xyz is.

I use a 3-series Gitzo systematic, the 3541LS. I bought it in December of 2010. Back then, RRS was selling the TVC-33 for $925.00 (same price as today) and my Gitzo cost only $540.00. RRS at that time didn't have a 4 leg section 3-series and I couldn't justify the price difference. The Gitzo was even cheaper than a Benro systematic that I was going to buy and was almost 1/2 the price (58%) of the RRS. So a no brainer there, and I'm very pleased with the Gitzo - total overkill for my equipment.

I don't think you should be looking at a Gitzo 2-series in comparison to a RRS TVC-33. By all account you should be comparing the TVC-33 to a Gitzo 4 or 5-series in performance terms. The nearest Gitzo 3-series to the RRS tripod is the 3532S which sells for $724.95.

But whatever, you're looking for the xyz. The one thing that I would say is a standout difference is that RRS (and one or two other manufacturers) use CNC milled 6061 T6 aircraft grade aluminum for the metal parts of the tripod like the base and the leg joints. Gitzo (and most other manufacturers) use cast parts which are susceptible to fracture in extreme environments. In my Gitzo warranty it states: "Do not use the product at temperatures less than -30°C or more than +70°C (-22°F/158°F)".

I live in New England too and I've never had a problem with a Gitzo tripod and I've used them in extreme cold. But the point about the RRS tripod is that it would never even be a concern. Milling a solid piece of very high quality aluminum is an expensive business because (a) it's costly stuff and (b) you can't reuse the waste. Those aluminum parts cost a heck of a lot more than cast parts.

Some need extreme reliability, if I was a professional photographer I'd almost certainly buy a RRS but as just a keen amateur I'm very pleased with my Gitzo 3-series. I'm not trying to convince you to spend another $250, just pointing out where I think some of that money goes. I bought Gitzo and it's a great tripod, you can have the same experience too I'm sure of that.

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Received my tripod and ball head last night, can't say how happy I am with the purchase.

Congrats Jason! :)


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Feb 08, 2013 12:49 |  #36

peter_n wrote in post #15586704 (external link)
Yes I'm interested too. Do tell!

I use a 3-series Gitzo systematic, the 3541LS. I bought it in December of 2010. Back then, RRS was selling the TVC-33 for $925.00 (same price as today) and my Gitzo cost only $540.00. RRS at that time didn't have a 4 leg section 3-series and I couldn't justify the price difference. The Gitzo was even cheaper than a Benro systematic that I was going to buy and was almost 1/2 the price (58%) of the RRS. So a no brainer there, and I'm very pleased with the Gitzo - total overkill for my equipment.

I don't think you should be looking at a Gitzo 2-series in comparison to a RRS TVC-33. By all account you should be comparing the TVC-33 to a Gitzo 4 or 5-series in performance terms. The nearest Gitzo 3-series to the RRS tripod is the 3532S which sells for $724.95.

But whatever, you're looking for the xyz. The one thing that I would say is a standout difference is that RRS (and one or two other manufacturers) use CNC milled 6061 T6 aircraft grade aluminum for the metal parts of the tripod like the base and the leg joints. Gitzo (and most other manufacturers) use cast parts which are susceptible to fracture in extreme environments. In my Gitzo warranty it states: "Do not use the product at temperatures less than -30°C or more than +70°C (-22°F/158°F)".

I live in New England too and I've never had a problem with a Gitzo tripod and I've used them in extreme cold. But the point about the RRS tripod is that it would never even be a concern. Milling a solid piece of very high quality aluminum is an expensive business because (a) it's costly stuff and (b) you can't reuse the waste. Those aluminum parts cost a heck of a lot more than cast parts.

Some need extreme reliability, if I was a professional photographer I'd almost certainly buy a RRS but as just a keen amateur I'm very pleased with my Gitzo 3-series. I'm not trying to convince you to spend another $250, just pointing out where I think some of that money goes. I bought Gitzo and it's a great tripod, you can have the same experience too I'm sure of that.

Thanks. Yea, I think I am at this point, being a gear head far more then anything else. I am sure any of the high end tripods will do what I need.

As for the milled aluminum, Feisol states they use the same stuff (and milled). Crazy how inexpensive they are in comparison.


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Feb 08, 2013 13:58 |  #37

mafoo wrote in post #15587535 (external link)
As for the milled aluminum, Feisol states they use the same stuff (and milled). Crazy how inexpensive they are in comparison.

Yes you're correct, and there is quite a difference in the price. I'm not familiar with the Feisol line but they may be using a lesser grade of aluminum than RRS. This so-called "aircraft grade" aluminum is a bit of a misleading term kind of like "surgical stainless steel". Also I believe that many types of aluminum alloys are used in building airplanes. Here's a nice aluminum reference (external link).


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Feb 08, 2013 22:51 |  #38

Indecent Exposure wrote in post #15585291 (external link)
The same as if you spent $30. Their service is the industry standard.

And since I'm a bonafide gear nut, I have to ask - what'dja get?

James,

Here is the wallet damage report.

TVC-33 2 TA-3-LC-HK 3 PG-02-FG 12 TH-DVTL-55 18 B1DX-L 19 MPR-73 26 L84 31 LCF-53 36 BH-55-LR 42 MH01-LR-Pkg 49 SH TVC-33 Versa Series 3 Tripod TA-3-LC-HK: Versa 3 LB with Clamp & Hook PG-02 FG: PG-02 Full Gimbal Head TH-DVTL-55: Round Dovetail Plate B1DX-L: L-Plate for Canon EOS-1D X MPR-73: 73mm Multi-purpose rail L84: Used with various collared lenses LCF-53: Foot for 400/500/600mm IS-II BH-55 LR: Full-sized ballhead with LR MH01-LR Pkg: MC-34 Monopod + MH-01 LR SHIPPING


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Feb 08, 2013 22:54 |  #39

I had to remove the out of stock L plate for the 7d, I didn't want that to holdup the shipping. They wait until everything is in stock before sending it out the door. I plan on ordering it when in stock + a off camera flash bracket.


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Feb 09, 2013 00:07 |  #40

peter_n wrote in post #15587827 (external link)
Yes you're correct, and there is quite a difference in the price. I'm not familiar with the Feisol line but they may be using a lesser grade of aluminum than RRS. This so-called "aircraft grade" aluminum is a bit of a misleading term kind of like "surgical stainless steel". Also I believe that many types of aluminum alloys are used in building airplanes. Here's a nice aluminum reference (external link).

Understood, however a grade is a grade. Feisol clames they use both 7075 and 6061 T6 (the same grade as RSS)

http://www.feisol.net …od-ct3442-rapid-p-31.html (external link)

So at a minimum, it's as good (with the 7075 being even better)


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Feb 09, 2013 00:44 |  #41

I'd suggest the OP to go with this:

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Feb 09, 2013 07:59 |  #42

mafoo wrote in post #15589646 (external link)
Understood, however a grade is a grade. Feisol clames they use both 7075 and 6061 T6 (the same grade as RSS)
So at a minimum, it's as good (with the 7075 being even better)

Yep, 7075 is very high grade. I think Feisol is from Taiwan, I have a Benro travel tripod from mainland China which IMO is better than the equivalent Gitzo which I also owned and then sold after I used the Benro for about a year. I had them both completely apart too so I was able to compare construction. So presumably the difference is either labor cost or margin.


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Feb 09, 2013 15:33 |  #43

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James,

Here is the wallet damage report.

TVC-33 2 TA-3-LC-HK 3 PG-02-FG 12 TH-DVTL-55 18 B1DX-L 19 MPR-73 26 L84 31 LCF-53 36 BH-55-LR 42 MH01-LR-Pkg 49 SH TVC-33 Versa Series 3 Tripod TA-3-LC-HK: Versa 3 LB with Clamp & Hook PG-02 FG: PG-02 Full Gimbal Head TH-DVTL-55: Round Dovetail Plate B1DX-L: L-Plate for Canon EOS-1D X MPR-73: 73mm Multi-purpose rail L84: Used with various collared lenses LCF-53: Foot for 400/500/600mm IS-II BH-55 LR: Full-sized ballhead with LR MH01-LR Pkg: MC-34 Monopod + MH-01 LR SHIPPING

Damn.


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Feb 09, 2013 21:50 as a reply to  @ Indecent Exposure's post |  #44

A buddy of mine has a RRS carbon fiber (TVC-33) tripod with a RRS BH-55LR head. The legs are a lot bigger in diameter than the Gitzo carbon fiber, but much lighter. It's just over $900 for the tripod and $450 for the head, but as far as tripods and heads go, it's like have sex with god's wife. :cool:

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