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AirBnB Photography - a short rant

 
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Feb 07, 2013 08:54 |  #16

JacobPhoto wrote in post #15580489 (external link)
I would think that a commercial property management company is likely to spend money on a rendering that would show how the space could be used rather than getting 'good' shots of an empty space... but maybe that's just me

The renderings are done by architects that the firms hire to design the space. Photos of an exterior, landscaping, and other design features are marketed by the management company. If the office is already outfitted with furniture and decor, then they would want the best photos possible to market the space. (I'm in property management ;) )




  
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Feb 07, 2013 10:12 |  #17

Hooollllly crap. $50 for all that work? No wonder there's so many threads on POTN about how the photography sector is falling apart, and complaints about those who help facilitate it.


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Feb 07, 2013 10:42 |  #18

If they're able to raise their standards while still paying the same amount, then they must have enough semi-skilled photographers willing to work for that amount. It's business. Not a business that's favorable to professional photographers, but they're not beholden to us.

Having said that, I like the idea of using them to build a skillset and portfolio. I've recently had a successful and reputable RE agent ask me to write him up a proposal, and I want to go in with the confidence that I can do the job for him with a quality that will justify what I want to charge - so it sounds like AirBnB is a perfect place to hone my skills. Like TFCD, but better. I'll probably do six or eight of these and see if I can make it work.


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Feb 07, 2013 11:54 |  #19

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Having said that, I like the idea of using them to build a skillset and portfolio. I've recently had a successful and reputable RE agent ask me to write him up a proposal, and I want to go in with the confidence that I can do the job for him with a quality that will justify what I want to charge - so it sounds like AirBnB is a perfect place to hone my skills. Like TFCD, but better.

Exactly, use it as a paid stepping stone for bigger and better things. I don't get as many requests as some do, so I dont have as much opportunity to "practice", but I love having to figure out my lighting for the different rooms...or which lens is going to work better for a given room size etc...so I can file that info away for later. You can watch all the videos you want on doing this, but we all know, it's really hard to beat "hands-on" learning...and if youre getting paid for it...why not..:D


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Feb 07, 2013 13:15 |  #20

Picture North Carolina wrote in post #15582931 (external link)
Hooollllly crap. $50 for all that work? No wonder there's so many threads on POTN about how the photography sector is falling apart, and complaints about those who help facilitate it.

In every profession there are price undercutters, and in every profession there are people who would rather whine about it than make the effort to differentiate themselves in the marketplace.

It's called capitalism, and it has a way of keeping prices reasonable for buyers while requiring that those who charge more provide value in their quality and service to justify their fees. More often than not, the vendor gets what he earns, and the customer gets what he pays for.

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Feb 10, 2013 12:19 |  #21

Maybe look into photographing inns/B&B's/smaller restaurants for Groupon? A photographer friend here works with Groupon and gets paid roughly $400 to photograph local Bed and Breakfasts for the Groupon ads.




  
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Feb 10, 2013 13:27 |  #22

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Maybe look into photographing inns/B&B's/smaller restaurants for Groupon? A photographer friend here works with Groupon and gets paid roughly $400 to photograph local Bed and Breakfasts for the Groupon ads.

Whom do you contact for this...sounds interesting


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Feb 11, 2013 12:59 |  #23

digirebelva wrote in post #15594897 (external link)
Whom do you contact for this...sounds interesting

Not sure exactly, I believe she was contacted by Groupon. I would try this:

http://jobs.groupon.co​m/ (external link)

or call these numbers:

Want to talk to a Groupon Specialist? Call (888) 582-4354
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Feb 25, 2013 16:30 |  #24

mirrorrim wrote in post #15598532 (external link)
Not sure exactly, I believe she was contacted by Groupon. I would try this:

http://jobs.groupon.co​m/ (external link)

or call these numbers:

Want to talk to a Groupon Specialist? Call (888) 582-4354
Customer Service: Call us at 1 (888) 375-5777

Thanks for the tip.

As to the other discussion... yes, this is definitely a stepping stone. I just need to find my next stone before I jump.


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Feb 27, 2013 08:39 as a reply to  @ cnhoffma's post |  #25

I just looked at the airbnb site and they show an Airstream trailer for rent, which had over a dozen photos of the inside, outside, and location. That was probably a challenge to shoot. I may watch that site just to see what comes up locally, but don't see it as being a viable option.

Residential real estate has a need for photography, but most agents take their own pics, and if you did go a shoot for a listing agent they would probably want to make the fee contingent upon a closing of a sale for the property. Not good, and probably not viable as well.

Commercial real estate, the larger agencies usually have their own in-house graphics person to take photos.

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Feb 27, 2013 08:56 |  #26

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but most agents take their own pics.

And they generally suck, most have gone to using their smartphone/Iphone for the pictures...yeah, those really put the property in the best light for potential buyers...;)

treebound wrote in post #15657392 (external link)
and if you did get a shoot for a listing agent they would probably want to make the fee contingent upon a closing of a sale for the property.

Depends on the listing agent, or you agree on a flat fee based on sq. footage...larger the house, more time involved, higher price...


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May 11, 2013 12:44 |  #27

I too am a "photographer" for AirBnB. Only $50 + $15 for gas, which is pretty crummy. But I'm also a college student so some side work helps. I was employed with them in January, 2012 and just the other week received my first listing to shoot.
I agree with everyone that the pay sucks, but considering the real inconsistency of offers I get I don't mind the occasional $50. And of course some additions to the portfolio are nice too.


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May 11, 2013 18:41 as a reply to  @ Dan Evans's post |  #28

Irrespective of the money you are getting the terms are what one should strive (or better) if you were working for yourself. I respond to all customer inquiries within 24 hours. Anything more than that you stand to lose them. The customers have plenty of options these days. Giving 12 instead of 10 images off of a shoot should not be over taxing. If one can't come up with 12 quality shots per shoot they should choose a different career path. If you were willing to work under the previous conditions for the money you received I don't see the new conditions that problematic. Of course you have the option of simply not working for them if you find these too much.


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Oct 14, 2013 15:01 as a reply to  @ ssim's post |  #29

I have been working for Airbnb for a year and done 16 shoots, I am going to quit because now one particular *curator* keeps wanting me to reshoot, other times I have no or a couple of edits. The first time I did have words with the person and waited to see what would happen next time she got to review my work (having done 3 shoots in between with no problems) and she told me I have to reshoot (this is the second time and I reassigned it - but there are no other photographers in the area). It has been fun and it is a second *fun* job for me, not like you will get rich from it lol. But for $50 and to have this level of stringency I mean come on! I didn't mind editing or correcting things and have learned a lot but now it is getting ridiculous (and I think personal) so am going to quit as soon as my final two shoots are reviewed, hopefully by someone else! It's upsetting as I have really enjoyed it, and also there is nobody else in this whole area so people have been waiting for their *free* photography for a year or two and are very happy to see me and their photos on the website too.




  
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Oct 15, 2013 19:17 |  #30

JacobPhoto wrote in post #15580489 (external link)
I would think that a commercial property management company is likely to spend money on a rendering that would show how the space could be used rather than getting 'good' shots of an empty space... but maybe that's just me

Nope...they'll pay and pay good. One of my first gigs was for a loft. Too bad I didn't have the business sense then to realize the cash cow....that's a whole nother story.:confused:


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