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Feb 11, 2013 04:00 |  #46

dude thats a toy, buy it and play with it. how can you be 'talked out of' a toy lens...


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Feb 11, 2013 06:33 |  #47

linh811 wrote in post #15597162 (external link)
dude thats a toy, buy it and play with it. how can you be 'talked out of' a toy lens...

I understand what you're saying, but the OP might think its a piece of junk rather than good value for the money. Its the prime every new Canon shooter, without deep pockets ,should get first.


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Feb 11, 2013 10:46 as a reply to  @ mwsilver's post |  #48

OP could buy it for 100$ and sell it for 100$.
It is OK as portrait lens for little ones, but almost useless for the rest on Rebel, IMO.
Instead of wasting money for very old plastic lens from film era with ordinary glass in it, why not to save another 200$ and get newer 30 1.4, which is almost perfect prime compare to 50 1.8.


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Feb 11, 2013 10:48 |  #49

adamo99 wrote in post #15587556 (external link)
If this is going to be your primary low light prime lens, I'd recommend going with something like the EF 28mm f/1.8 or the Sigma 30mm f/1.4. IMO, you will find the 50 too long for indoor use most of the time.

I definitely agree! The 50 is too long on a t3i indoors. I prefer the 28mm, plus its built better, and the ultrasonic motor is great. It doesn't hunt in low light either. It's worth the extra $$. Speaking from experience (I just had a baby myself) the poor low light focus on the 50 is very annoying, and you miss alot of shots since your baby moves so fast and their facial expressions are constantly changing. Just get the 28, skip the 50 all together.


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Feb 11, 2013 11:00 |  #50

kf095 wrote in post #15598051 (external link)
OP could buy it for 100$ and sell it for 100$.
It is OK as portrait lens for little ones, but almost useless for the rest on Rebel, IMO.
Instead of wasting money for very old plastic lens from film era with ordinary glass in it, why not to save another 200$ and get newer 30 1.4, which is almost perfect prime compare to 50 1.8.

That's a excellent thought. There are various good 28mm to 35mm lenses out there that on a crop would give an angle of view equal to around 45mm to 56mm. An inexpensive choice might be the Sigma f/1.4 EX DC HSM which is is being replaced very soon. As a result there is now a $200 manufacturers discount on this current model. Places like B&H and Adorama are selling it for $289. While a bit more than double the price of a new 50mm f/1.8, its a better lens in every respect and a has a much more usable focal length for general photography on a crop camera.


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Feb 11, 2013 11:52 |  #51

kf095 wrote in post #15598051 (external link)
OP could buy it for 100$ and sell it for 100$.
It is OK as portrait lens for little ones, but almost useless for the rest on Rebel, IMO.
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Feb 11, 2013 12:11 |  #52

kf095 wrote in post #15598051 (external link)
It is OK as portrait lens for little ones, but almost useless for the rest on Rebel, IMO. Instead of wasting money for very old plastic lens from film era with ordinary glass in it, why not to save another 200$ and get newer 30 1.4, which is almost perfect prime compare to 50 1.8.

:rolleyes: Just because you can't get decent images out of your 'very old plastic film era lens with ordinary glass in it' doesn't make it useless at all. Have you looked at the samples gallery?? There are some truly stunning images posted with it.




  
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Feb 11, 2013 13:00 |  #53

kf095 wrote in post #15598051 (external link)
...useless for the rest on Rebel...


... wasting money for very old plastic lens from film era with ordinary glass in it...

Very strong words. You've been misinformed.


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Feb 11, 2013 15:00 |  #54

Its only $100. (Nifty)
There's a 40mm pancake for $140 used near me, trying to decide between them.
I also have a lil weed that's going on 6 months here's soon. I also take alot of pics of corals in my saltwater tanks. My 18-55 is always 50-55mm when shooting the tank but I usually shoot @ 1600iso.
Will the nifty's larger aperture make a difference compared to the 40pancake? I usually shoot manual focus for this stuff. Should I just save up for the 100mm f/2.8? Lol

Also...what about the $50 sunpak flashes you see @ Walmart. Would that be okay? They are somewhat adjustable. I'm sure they are no 430ex...




  
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Feb 11, 2013 15:04 |  #55

nathancarter wrote in post #15584116 (external link)
Agreed. Whoever told you "don't buy it because it's a crop lens" was wrong. It's EF-mount which means it'll fit pretty much all Canon bodies (full-frame and crop).

Even if they were right, it's lousy advice. It's a great lens for the money, and at this point in your photographic development, you don't need to worry about whether the lens will fit on a full-frame body that you might buy some indeterminate year in the future.

They may have MEANT to say that you shouldn't get it because it's a prime lens (this means it doesn't zoom in and out). Again, lousy advice; prime lenses can be great, and you can just use the ol' "foot zoom" - simply walk closer or farther away.

On the plus side, now you know whose photographic advice can be safely ignored.

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It's not a crop lens and will fit on a 5D3 [which is FF] as well in the future.
Actually on a crop camera like yours and mine, you will not generally expose the weakest part of most lenes namely the periferal edges.

Being frank before I bought that I would look at the pancake. Better built, nicer focusing noise [Baby asleep - don't have a baby but works great on foals - little horses], quieter, metal mount [apparently there have been cases of the plastic mount lenses being stuck on a camera - never seen it myself or met anyone who had met anyone who had this problem but...] you can get closer, can always walk back, really tiny to carry around. Plus in the US you guys can get it for $150.
I think I paid £225! and gave away my F1.8!!!
Negative only 2.8F, slightly more, less reach, apparently not as good optical performance the 1.8 is outstanding but I took some great pics with the pancake, and a 7D.


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Feb 11, 2013 15:21 |  #56

Michigan Mike wrote in post #15599001 (external link)
Its only $100. (Nifty)
There's a 40mm pancake for $140 used near me, trying to decide between them.
I also have a lil weed that's going on 6 months here's soon. I also take alot of pics of corals in my saltwater tanks. My 18-55 is always 50-55mm when shooting the tank but I usually shoot @ 1600iso.
Will the nifty's larger aperture make a difference compared to the 40pancake? I usually shoot manual focus for this stuff. Should I just save up for the 100mm f/2.8? Lol

Also...what about the $50 sunpak flashes you see @ Walmart. Would that be okay? They are somewhat adjustable. I'm sure they are no 430ex...

The 40mm pancake is a great lens!!! Its sharp wide open, its a nice focal length and has more accurate focus than the 50 1.8. I use the 40 STM when I'm shootin snapshots of the fam and traveling. I have a 35L I use for portrait sessions and weddings. I owned the 50 1.8 in the past and I think at $100 its not a great value compared the the 40mm STM at $150 - unless you literally can't swing the cash difference.

The best non-Canon budget flashes right now are coming from Yongnuo - great bang for the buck


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Feb 11, 2013 15:24 |  #57

This was my first prime lens and I was literally blown away.
At your stage of photography, GET IT without any second thoughts.

CaraLynn91 wrote in post #15583223 (external link)
I'm definitely a newb, and looking into the T3i maybe even the T3. I have been told that the 50mm may not be the best for me since it's a cropped lens?

My question is for a beginner wanting to fool around and learn more, take pictures of my toddler, newborn due in July, and family... would a T3 with 18-55mm IS II Lens + C55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS Telephoto Zoom Lens be sufficient?

I just want the most for what I spend, even though I am on a budget. I also want something that will function for what I want...strictly kids, but of course landscapes, outings, etc.


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Feb 11, 2013 15:39 |  #58

whoever said get the flash 430 instead was right. do that, its the right choice in terms of photo quality improvement as well as longevity. Even if the nifty fifty doesn't break, you'll outgrow it VERY quickly.


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Feb 11, 2013 15:52 as a reply to  @ vspector's post |  #59

Get it - it has best value in Canon lineup. I still regularly use it along with a couple of L lenses. It's small and shoots great photos even on a crop. The build quality is a bit crappy but the images that come out of it are anything but. And I never noticed any AF problems except in pitch darkness as with most lenses (even L series).


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Feb 11, 2013 16:41 |  #60

vspector wrote in post #15599125 (external link)
whoever said get the flash 430 instead was right. do that, its the right choice in terms of photo quality improvement as well as longevity. Even if the nifty fifty doesn't break, you'll outgrow it VERY quickly.

You shouldn't use a flash with a sleeping new born.


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