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slw4306
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Feb 18, 2013 15:33 |  #1

Hi All! I am new to this forum and fairly new to photography. I had a sweet baby boy last March and had an old Canon Rebel XS that I started using to take his pictures, in December, after learning more about what I wanted, I decided to upgrade to the T4i. I love my camera and have the 18-135 stm kit lens and the 50mm 1.8. I am wanting to get either one or two more lens to add to my collection. I primarily am only taking pictures of my little guy or family and friends. I would like to have a lens that I grow with. I have been looking at the new tamron 70-200 2.8 vc but don't know that I can justify spending 1500 on a lens when I am a amateur and by no means a professional. Do you think the older model of the sigma 70-200 2.8 or the older model of the tamron 70-200 2.8 is sufficient? I am really looking for something to give me good bokeh while taking pictures of my son. I rarely use my 18-135 now and usually use my 50mm. Sorry such a long post! Just need some ideas on the best lens to get for taking pictures of children. I am hoping to spend less than 1000. Thanks! -Stephanie




  
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Feb 18, 2013 15:44 |  #2

Unless you find yourself wishing for substantially more reach a lot of the time I would think something like an 85 or the 100mm F2.8L would work really well for portraits especially if you are wanting to limit your depth of field significantly. Sigmas 85 F/1.4 is about $900 and has gorgeous Bokeh. If you do want more of a long telephoto I have used the Sigma 70-200 2.8 and liked it, I just rarely find myself going for something that long for portraits.


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Feb 18, 2013 15:46 |  #3

Do you have a flash yet? If not, adding a good flash (like 430 EX) and learning how to bounce its light indoors from the walls/ceiling, and how to fill in outdoors, will make much more impact on the quality of your photos than even the most expensive lens could do.


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Feb 18, 2013 16:37 as a reply to  @ pulsar123's post |  #4

No flash yet, I need to take a lighting class or something. I would have no idea how to use one otherwise...




  
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Feb 18, 2013 16:41 as a reply to  @ slw4306's post |  #5

I'd go with a flash before more lenses. Learning to bounce is pretty easy. Indoor pics of your family and friends will look much better than using your pop-up flash.


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Feb 18, 2013 17:06 as a reply to  @ LV Moose's post |  #6

Along the same lines of indoor family shots (even though it is way different than what you mentioned) you may want to pick up a sigma 30mm f1.4. The F1.4 would be great for indoor/low light situations and it is a great lens to grow into since its great for when they start running around. It's also a steal right now ($289) from $489 a couple of months ago.

And someone posts a perfect example of its uses for you on the photoshare thread as i type this:

https://photography-on-the.net …p=15624659&post​count=7790


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Feb 18, 2013 19:08 |  #7

If you haven't handled the Sigma 70-200, you might want to do so before making a decision. It's a very large, heavy beast. I used to own one, and while it's a great lens, I ended up selling mine for two reasons: one, the weight (just too much to carry around, along with all the other stuff kids seem to need), and two, the lack of IS. IS makes a big difference on a lens in that focal range. I replaced my Sigma with the Canon f4 IS and am very happy. It blurs out the background very nicely for portraits, weighs a whole lot less than the f2.8 counterparts, and is extremely versatile. It can be found easily on the used market for well under $1000.

A second option would be to replace your 18-135 with a f2.8 zoom: Canon 17-55, Tamron 28-75, Sigma, etc. I have the Tamron and it's a good lens for people photography. There's a lot to be said for zooms when photographing children; they give you a bit more flexibility. Combined with a flash, you'll notice a difference in the quality of your photos.

Otherwise, as others have said, you might want to consider another prime lens. There's a lot of choice, depending on the focal length you want, i.e. longer or shorter than your 50 mm.


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Feb 18, 2013 19:56 |  #8

pick up a flash and an 85 1.8.


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Feb 18, 2013 20:10 |  #9

My affordable bokeh-friendly portrait choices would be....

If indoor in a smaller space most of the time, then 30mm 1.4. Test used locally if possible or buy new so you have the option of getting calibrated with Sigma. The lens is great but is known to have focus inconsistencies depending on the body.

If outdoor or you have a huge house, then 85mm 1.8.

And the flash idea is good too.


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Feb 18, 2013 20:14 |  #10

pdrober2 wrote in post #15625409 (external link)
pick up a flash and an 85 1.8.

Very sound advice here, and can't recommend this path enough. Bounced flash is a piece of cake and will really improve your pictures, and the 85mm 1.8 is called "the kid lens" for a reason. Low light, indoor, action, backyard, playground shots....pretty much wherever kids are, the 85mm 1.8 lens will deliver.


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Feb 18, 2013 20:38 |  #11

pdrober2 wrote in post #15625409 (external link)
pick up a flash and an 85 1.8.

This is your key answer right here.

I don't see any reason to buy a 3rd party 70-200 2.8 for the same reasons stated above. It's large/heavy and no IS. I used to use a Canon 70-200 2.8/L with IS and still never picked it up, the telephoto length can be pretty limiting once you step indoors.

A flash with a fast prime will do you wonders and probably get you better results than buying a large telephoto zoom. Now if you're really adamant about not getting a flash and were just looking to get good image quality, I'd say sell the 18-135 and buy a 24-70.


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Feb 18, 2013 20:41 as a reply to  @ catchquan's post |  #12

Dont forget he is working on a crop. I love the 85 1.8 but it may be too long for some of what he needs.


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Feb 18, 2013 22:17 |  #13

singer.rick wrote in post #15625577 (external link)
Dont forget he is working on a crop. I love the 85 1.8 but it may be too long for some of what he needs.

Agree with this. I had an 85mm on T2i and it was unusable 1/2 the time just bc of space. I sold it and got a 30mm 1.4. But maybe if the OP is outside or has a large interior space then it may be ok.


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Feb 18, 2013 22:20 |  #14

go with a flash, and if you like the 50mm a lot, why not look into upgrading it to a f1.4 version of some description


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Feb 19, 2013 15:59 as a reply to  @ Ilovetheleafs's post |  #15

Thanks for all your advice! I was originally looking at getting the telephoto because I am outside a lot with my son and take more candid shots than anything. That is the main reason I haven't even really considered getting a flash yet is because of how little I am taking pictures inside some where that I could use a flash. I really appreciate your advice! I am thinking about going with maybe the 85 1.4 and either the Tamron 18-50 or the 24-70.




  
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