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Feb 20, 2013 12:29 |  #2611

drzenitram wrote in post #15630252 (external link)
About the equivalent to the canon Ls or a little better.

Of the 3 I listed:

Sigma 35 new: 899 used: 850
retains 95% of its value
Sigma 85 new: 895 used: 775
retains 85% of its value
Sigma 70-200 OS new: 1249 used: 1000
retains 80% of its value

Canon 35L new: 1479 used: 1000
retains 67% of its value
Canon 85L new: 2199 used: 1675
retains 76% of its value
Canon 70-200 II new: 2499 used: 1900
retains 76% of its value


Can you put the age of those lenses next to them?

I'd be surprised if you could even find a used Sigma 35 on the market..

the 85L II was released in 2006. 35L in 1998. 70-200 in 2010 (newest one in your group).

Sigma 35 is brand new, 85 and 70-200 were announced in Feb 2010.

I think Canon is doing a pretty good job in the resale dept. considering it took Sigma about 15 years to beat the 35mm...

I could say that a BMW 325i from 1998 has a re-sale value of about 2K (marked down from 30K when it was brand new, what's the resale percentage of that?)

and that a re-sale value of a 325i from 2013 is pretty much its' sticker price.

Dunno if that's a proper comparison...


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Feb 20, 2013 12:31 as a reply to  @ Simplistic's post |  #2612

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Feb 20, 2013 12:58 |  #2613

Simplistic wrote in post #15632159 (external link)
Can you put the age of those lenses next to them?

I'd be surprised if you could even find a used Sigma 35 on the market..

the 85L II was released in 2006. 35L in 1998. 70-200 in 2010 (newest one in your group).

Sigma 35 is brand new, 85 and 70-200 were announced in Feb 2010.

I think Canon is doing a pretty good job in the resale dept. considering it took Sigma 25 years to beat the 35mm...

I could say that a BMW 325i from 1998 has a re-sale value of about 2K (marked down from 30K when it was brand new, what's the resale percentage of that?)

and that a re-sale value of a 325i from 2013 is pretty much its' sticker price.

Dunno if that's a proper comparison...


That might be a valid argument if canon wasn't still making those lenses brand new. They may be "old technology" but you can buy an 85L, 35L, and 70-200 that was manufactured a month ago.


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Feb 20, 2013 13:00 |  #2614

My point is, I'd like to see if those sigmas keep their resale value in a few years.

My math was totally wrong, too (hehe - about the 35L)

Let's talk in the year 2028, and see where the resale value of the 35 is. :)


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Feb 20, 2013 13:04 |  #2615

Simplistic wrote in post #15632252 (external link)
My point is, I'd like to see if those sigmas keep their resale value in a few years.

My math was totally wrong, too (hehe - about the 35L)

Let's talk in the year 2028. :)

lol deal :-P

I really made that post just to put a troll away, resale value isn't important, but the "good" sigma lenses have been holding their value just as well as canon lenses so far.


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Feb 20, 2013 13:16 |  #2616

drzenitram wrote in post #15630309 (external link)
really, unless your reasoning for going 35L over sigma 35 is CPS points, the sigma 35 is better in every way.

Actually the reason I might prefer the C35L over the S35 is the area in which it is a clear winner based on everything I've read so far which is focus speed for sure and maybe accuracy (less lighting dependent variation).

When I had the possibly sharper IS picture of the T24-70 F/2.8 VC the slower AF missed shots that the C24-70L F/2.8 II has no problem with.

I tend to shoot "action" type shots so nailing the focus quickly and accurately produces more keepers for me than does slower focus but sharper picture.

If you're shooting static subjects then the S35 certainly has its appeal.


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Feb 20, 2013 13:22 |  #2617

DDL wrote in post #15632307 (external link)
Actually the reason I might prefer the C35L over the S35 is the area in which it is a clear winner based on everything I've read so far which is focus speed for sure and maybe accuracy (less lighting dependent variation).

When I had the possibly sharper IS picture of the T24-70 F/2.8 VC the slower AF missed shots that the C24-70L F/2.8 II has no problem with.

I tend to shoot "action" type shots so nailing the focus quickly and accurately produces more keepers for me than does slower focus but sharper picture.

If you're shooting static subjects then the S35 certainly has its appeal.

Only a few people are having problems with the s35 focusing accurately in different lighting, it's certainly a small minority. For the rest of us, our lenses focus very accurately in any light. A few people have tested in FoCal and found over 99% accuracy. On the subject of focusing speed, I have owned the 35L and the S35, and I could tell no difference in focusing speed in any light. The S35 snaps to focus very, very quickly. You would not be left wanting in the area of speed, even with fast moving subjects(I use mine most often for kids, and kids are ALWAYS moving).


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Feb 20, 2013 13:41 |  #2618
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Sigma 35 is only good for static shots.

Canons 35L Ultra Sonic Motor is far superior in every way.


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Feb 20, 2013 13:51 |  #2619

drzenitram wrote in post #15632327 (external link)
Only a few people are having problems with the s35 focusing accurately in different lighting, it's certainly a small minority. For the rest of us, our lenses focus very accurately in any light. A few people have tested in FoCal and found over 99% accuracy. On the subject of focusing speed, I have owned the 35L and the S35, and I could tell no difference in focusing speed in any light. The S35 snaps to focus very, very quickly. You would not be left wanting in the area of speed, even with fast moving subjects(I use mine most often for kids, and kids are ALWAYS moving).

Thanks for the feedback as if I go 35mm then I certainly want to try the S35 to save some money over the CPS discounted C35L. As you can see from my gearlist I'm not adverse to buying and using 3rd party lenses.

The focus speed difference was noted in the LensTip and the SLR Gear reviews so that's what I'm basing my statements on.

For the record I do feel that my Tamron and Sigma lenses focus more slowly (especially in lower light) than do my Canon near similar focal length lenses. However, whether the difference is significant enough to cause me an issue with taking pictures (always moving kids like you but also "action" shots in dance recitals, hockey, etc.) is tougher to quantify (have the fear of missing a "once in a lifetime" non-repeatable shot!).


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Feb 20, 2013 14:05 |  #2620

DDL wrote in post #15632426 (external link)
Thanks for the feedback as if I go 35mm then I certainly want to try the S35 to save some money over the CPS discounted C35L. As you can see from my gearlist I'm not adverse to buying and using 3rd party lenses.

The focus speed difference was noted in the LensTip and the SLR Gear reviews so that's what I'm basing my statements on.

For the record I do feel that my Tamron and Sigma lenses focus more slowly (especially in lower light) than do my Canon near similar focal length lenses. However, whether the difference is significant enough to cause me an issue with taking pictures (always moving kids like you but also "action" shots in dance recitals, hockey, etc.) is tougher to quantify (have the fear of missing a "once in a lifetime" non-repeatable shot!).

Try it out! I think that a test run is all you'll need to be convinced. I never loved the 35L, I never thought it was magical or wonderful, in fact I went back to a 35 f2 before upgrading to the S35. The 35 f2 was sharper in the center than the 35L @ equal apertures and equally sharp from f2.8 on up. The sigma makes both of them look like bargain bin lenses.


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Feb 20, 2013 15:02 |  #2621

photosurgeon wrote in post #15632383 (external link)
Sigma 35 is only good for static shots.

Yeah okay, whatever. Okay, hold that pose!


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Feb 20, 2013 15:03 |  #2622

bwhip wrote in post #15632680 (external link)
Yeah okay, whatever. Okay, hold that pose!

Nice pics; but should try not to feed the trolls.. :)


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Feb 21, 2013 10:23 |  #2623

Received my lens last night and unfortunately, my initial impression is that I have a particularly bad copy. Will test it further tonight and see if MFA can fix anything but it just seems incredibly inconsistent at anything over 12 feet..

Out of interest, has anyone on here had any experience in dealing with DigitalRev in terms of returning a bad copy? In particular, who pays for return shipping? I read that the customer has to pay if they change their mind about a purchase but can't seem to find any info regarding returns for a faulty lens..




  
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Feb 21, 2013 20:18 |  #2624

Well .... I went to my trusty local shop to exchange my front-focusing-beyond-+20 Σ50.
Tested the new copy ... looks like it's better but .............

There was this Σ35 that was calling my name. So tested it as well and was pleased with what I saw. It's twice the price of the Σ50 but I'm hoping it's a better choice. Did not have my $$$ with me so I left empty-handed but took some shots on my 6D to check out at home. Will come back tomorrow but most probably it's gonna be the Σ35 :lol:

This is one of the images I took. Cropped a little.
This is SOOC

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Feb 21, 2013 22:13 |  #2625

I'm seriously considering selling my 85 f/1.8 to fund this lens... I can't wait until my birthday in April... Then I'll just buy the 85 again for my birthday...

Wise plan?


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