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Thread started 06 Mar 2013 (Wednesday) 15:40
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POLL: "Wich one?!"
EOS 7D + 24-105 f/4 L IS + 50mm f/1.4
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EOS 5D Mk II + 70-200 f/2.8
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63.6%

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5D2+70-200 vs 7D+24-105

 
Dbersh
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Mar 08, 2013 16:01 |  #16

Yogi Bear wrote in post #15689124 (external link)
No, you are not mistaken. 70-200 on FF will be the equivalent of 45-125 on crop.

Wrong. 70-200 on FF is 70-200. On a crop you multiple by sensor size. On a 7D that is 1.6 so FOV is 70 x 1.6 = 112 and 200 x 1.6 = 320

For your reference http://en.wikipedia.or​g/wiki/Crop_factor (external link)


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Mar 08, 2013 16:19 |  #17

Dbersh wrote in post #15692869 (external link)
Wrong. 70-200 on FF is 70-200. On a crop you multiple by sensor size. On a 7D that is 1.6 so FOV is 70 x 1.6 = 112 and 200 x 1.6 = 320

That would be true for a 70-200 on a 7D, but that is NOT what he is looking for or talking about. He is talking about GOING THE OTHER WAY. He wants to know what would be the 'equivalent', on a crop body, to a 70-200 on a FF. This is backwards from what is normally calculated, which is the "FF Equivalent". He wants to know the "Crop Equivalent" of the 70-200 on FF. In order to get the same FOV on crop that 70-200 gives on FF would take 70/1.6= 43.75mm to 200/1.6= 125mm, so, roughly 45mm to 125mm on a crop will have the same FOV as 70mm to 200mm on FF.


Canon EOS 7D | EF-S 17-55mm f/2.8 IS USM | EF-S 55-250mm f/4.0-5.6 IS |
EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS USM | 250D | EF-S 10-22 mm f/3.5-4.5 USM | 580 EX II |

  
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Dbersh
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Mar 08, 2013 16:33 |  #18

Ok I guess that would add to the confusion. I was obviously reading it different. I understand what you are saying now.


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Mar 08, 2013 16:52 |  #19

Just my opinion! I have the 7D and the 5DMII (2 in fact). I always have the 7D in my camera bag with a 5DMKII. IMO, I think the AF on the 7D is far better and tracking something moving the 7D wins hands down. Anything static, I say is a toss up though the 5D does seem a little better.
Why the 7D & 5DMKII? &d has some features the 5DMKII doesn't have and if I need them, I want to be ready. By the same means, the 5DMKII overall is a better camera, photo quality wise.
BUT ... Personally, I do not think either is a better camera than the other but equally as good as each other in different respects.
I voted 7D because if you shoot motorsports, the 7D is the camera to use. Portraits ... I do give the edge to the 5DMKII however the 7D isn't exactly a slouch at that.
Why not shoot for both? It can only work in your favor. Also nice to have a backup if you need one!


2 - 5DMKII's, Powershot SX 150 IS
7D, 5D, IR/5D, 10D, IR/10D, Elan 7NE
17-40 L, 24-70 L, 70-200 f/2.8 L IS, 100-400 L IS,
TS-E 24 f/3.5 L, 28-135 IS (x2), 50 f/1.8, 85 f/1.8 550EX, 430EX
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Mar 08, 2013 17:19 |  #20

johneo wrote in post #15693092 (external link)
Just my opinion! I have the 7D and the 5DMII (2 in fact). I always have the 7D in my camera bag with a 5DMKII. IMO, I think the AF on the 7D is far better and tracking something moving the 7D wins hands down. Anything static, I say is a toss up though the 5D does seem a little better.
Why the 7D & 5DMKII? &d has some features the 5DMKII doesn't have and if I need them, I want to be ready. By the same means, the 5DMKII overall is a better camera, photo quality wise.
BUT ... Personally, I do not think either is a better camera than the other but equally as good as each other in different respects.
I voted 7D because if you shoot motorsports, the 7D is the camera to use. Portraits ... I do give the edge to the 5DMKII however the 7D isn't exactly a slouch at that.
Why not shoot for both? It can only work in your favor. Also nice to have a backup if you need one!

Ditto, I have that combo and wouldn't give it up. It's an awesome budget set up.

If I had to chose 1, it would be the 7, I shoot mostly wild life and sports. So the reach and AF is really nice to have.




  
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NemethR
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Mar 09, 2013 12:27 |  #21

johneo wrote in post #15693092 (external link)
Just my opinion! I have the 7D and the 5DMII (2 in fact). I always have the 7D in my camera bag with a 5DMKII. IMO, I think the AF on the 7D is far better and tracking something moving the 7D wins hands down. Anything static, I say is a toss up though the 5D does seem a little better.
Why the 7D & 5DMKII? &d has some features the 5DMKII doesn't have and if I need them, I want to be ready. By the same means, the 5DMKII overall is a better camera, photo quality wise.
BUT ... Personally, I do not think either is a better camera than the other but equally as good as each other in different respects.
I voted 7D because if you shoot motorsports, the 7D is the camera to use. Portraits ... I do give the edge to the 5DMKII however the 7D isn't exactly a slouch at that.
Why not shoot for both? It can only work in your favor. Also nice to have a backup if you need one!


Sadly I do not have the budget to get both.

Since I was fine with the 40D shooting motorsport, I think i would be fine with the 5D2 also.... Or is the 5D2 AF system inferior to the 40D-50D?!


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Nikon D850 | Nikon 70-200 f/2.8G VR II | Nikon 85mm f/1.8G | Nikon 35mm f/1.8G

  
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