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Digitizing 120 medium format slides/film...DSLR

 
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Feb 26, 2013 13:52 |  #46

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Nah, if I wanted to, I'd get the crons a long time ago.

I am just not sure I actually need it or want it, for that matter. I'll have to baby the crons and I can abuse the russian lenses.

I've been looking at the 35mm scopar. It's half a grand and is almost as slow as 2.8 - it's not worth it. Especially considering I found the jupiter 12 with a fed body near a dumpster. So it was free. And the skopar only comes in M mount, right? So I'm getting it, I'll have to get another body...

I need to sell it all and buy from scratch as a system.

Well, a found camera is a different matter entirely.

The CV 35 f/1.4 is another option. That was going to be my 35 of choice, but the focus shift is a real issue.


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Mar 10, 2013 14:19 |  #47

More cross posting....

Figured I'd cross post this here...

I ended up with the V600, which, upon a lot of reading seemed to be the way to go for my needs and how much money I wanted to spend. This bird pic

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is my very first scan with the V600. It's from a 35mm negative using default settings on the Epson scanner software and minimal efforts in Lr4. I am mildly pleased with that result and confident I had made the right scanner choice. Until today. I scanned one of the 120 negatives that I had the lab do previously for comparison. This is their cheap scan which I think they run through a Coolscan 9000 on what I assume is a low-fi setting. I think I pay something like $6 for a 120 roll to be scanned. Yes, I know Burlington Camera is more expensive than options in the city that are immensely inconvenient to me and not worth the extra hassle. Anyway, I figured since the files I got from them were only a couple MBs and it is their budget scan that my V600 would be a bit closer than it is.

Here is the comparison:

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I'll let you guys figure out which is which, I think it's kind of obvious. Anyway, I'm hoping that when I get the time to follow the link and advice that TooManyShots gave here and here. I'm hoping that refining my process I'll be able to get a bit better. But how much? This result is kinda disappointing, I didn't think my baseline would be so low compared to a Coolscan on its lowest settings. :( The difference in dmax is apparent and I'm disappointed in the colour as well. Perhaps because it's darker the colours look muddier? Though there is a difference in detail, it's close enough to where I want and will probably be fine once I figure out the scanners sweet spot, get the anti reflective glass and figure out a better holder system. I'm more disappointed by the Dmax and colour difference. Are my expectations too high?

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Mar 10, 2013 15:38 |  #48

I don't have time to fiddle with it now but a quick preliminary run with VueScan (external link) made an immediate difference in terms of colour, dynamic range and sharpness. The review here (external link) said it would. Definitely noticeably better. Relieved and pleased. It can output to raw too. Not sure if that's going to translate into some latitude or not. Will have to test that out later.


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Mar 10, 2013 19:47 |  #49

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I don't have time to fiddle with it now but a quick preliminary run with VueScan (external link) made an immediate difference in terms of colour, dynamic range and sharpness. The review here (external link) said it would. Definitely noticeably better. Relieved and pleased. It can output to raw too. Not sure if that's going to translate into some latitude or not. Will have to test that out later.

The ABSOLUTE best way to scan colour negatives with VueScan is as follows:

1. Scan as a Raw file, saved as a TIFF (not a DNG...this is very important).
2. Buy ColorPerfect (http://www.c-f-systems.com/Plug-ins.html (external link)), and install.
3. Open the linear TIFF in Photoshop or Photoshop Elements and then open the ColorPerfect plugin
4. Select your film type, adjust the sliders to taste

This will give the absolute best colour rendition and allow you to extract the most from any negative.

Negative film has very low density, and doesn't really benefit all that much from multi exposure. That said, you can experiment to see if it makes a difference in the shadows for your specific film type and exposures.

ColorPerfect can also handle B&W negatives (with simulated paper grades for controlling contrast) and reversal film. It's not free, but it's absolutely worth the money if you're going to be doing a lot of scans.


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Film: Leica MP | Leica M2 | CV Nokton 35/1.4 | CV Nokton 40 f/1.4 | Leitz Summitar 50 f/2 | Canon 50 f/1.2 LTM | Mamiya 7 | Mamiya 80 f/4.0 | Mamiya 150 f/4.5 | Mamiya 43 f/4.5
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