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Local Camera shop tells me to use iphone instead of T3i for Video??

 
chaztrip
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Mar 06, 2013 09:57 |  #1

Hello all,

I am newer to the world of photography and Video but I have plenty of experience with Computers and software. Any way I decided to take a basics class on my canon t3i and what a waste of money... :-( I think I learned more by reading "Understanding Exposure" in the first chapter then the whole 2 hour class.

Anyway at the end of the class someone asked about using the t3i for video and he said you are better off using an iphone....:cry: I mean one of the main reasons that I bought the t3i is that I thought it could do a fair job of video.

What do you all think? any good sites or tips that I should look at? What about Magic Lantern?

Thanks in advance!!
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Mar 06, 2013 10:02 |  #2

As good as it may be, I seriously doubt that an I-phone is going to produce as good quality video as a t3i with a half decent lens.


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Mar 06, 2013 16:18 |  #3

I've put Magic Lantern on my T3i and believe its really improved my video with all the extra settings you get with it. Also, a cinestyle picture style is a big help.

BTW, one of the biggest things that surprised me when first taking video was the need to reduce the sharpness and contrast.




  
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Mar 06, 2013 18:25 |  #4

This guy made this and all his other vids on a T2i (the one under T3i with no flip screen)

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=ZKixKfQRIL4 (external link)

He works for major advertising companies over here and in Europe, your camera shop guy is talking garbage.




  
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Mar 07, 2013 00:40 |  #5

agreed, a quick google search will show you how many amazing videos have been made using a t2i or in your case t3i. with the right gear and know how amazing video can be had.


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Mar 07, 2013 00:49 |  #6

chaztrip wrote in post #15683275 (external link)
Hello all,

I am newer to the world of photography and Video but I have plenty of experience with Computers and software. Any way I decided to take a basics class on my canon t3i and what a waste of money... :-( I think I learned more by reading "Understanding Exposure" in the first chapter then the whole 2 hour class.

Yep, you're probably right.
Two hours isn't all that long.
What did you expect? That in two hours you would come out knowing everything that there is to know?


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Mar 07, 2013 08:00 |  #7

philwillmedia wrote in post #15686339 (external link)
Yep, you're probably right.
Two hours isn't all that long.
What did you expect? That in two hours you would come out knowing everything that there is to know?

Are you kidding me? why does every forum have someone like this? What I meant was that the class for 2 hours was not worth for the knowledge that was transferred. I picked up more by reading the book and seeing what other people have done on the internet. I could take a 30 hour class and still not know all that I would need to know. I am not claiming to know much at all at this point that is why I posted on this board.

Thanks to those who gave some insight into my initial question.




  
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Mar 07, 2013 10:04 |  #8

ignore them.




  
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Mar 07, 2013 10:17 |  #9

OP: I've shot a week long trip with an iPad 3 (same sensor as an iPhone 4s). Someone I know used an iPhone for a short film festival. People use them because they are surprisingly good for being on a mobile device, not that they themselves are the best tools for the job.

I wouldn't use them for anything serious unless it was a festival competition that explicitly allowed only iPhones or for personal projects where I don't want to lug around a real camera.


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Mar 07, 2013 13:52 |  #10

chaztrip wrote in post #15686994 (external link)
Are you kidding me? why does every forum have someone like this? What I meant was that the class for 2 hours was not worth for the knowledge that was transferred. I picked up more by reading the book and seeing what other people have done on the internet. I could take a 30 hour class and still not know all that I would need to know. I am not claiming to know much at all at this point that is why I posted on this board...

Hey champ, it's not a case of " why does every forum have someone like this?", I was merely pointing out that if you took a two hour basics class, by definition, that's about all you are going to learn - THE BASICS and that two hours is not a long time and appears to go very quickly.
Petersons book is also essentially about the basics too, so did you not think there was going to be a fair amount of crossover?
About all I would be expecting to learn in that time is how to access the camera's menus, what each button does, how to adjust various settings and the exposure triangle - and that's about it.
Any more than that, and its information overload for most people in two hours.
If you already felt you had some idea of the basics, why didn't you take a more advanced class?
Did you ask what was going to be covered before you enrolled in it?
You can't blame whoever was conducting the class for not knowing that you knew a bit more than they were teaching.
You were the one who chose that particular class.
What didn't they cover that you thought they should.


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Mar 07, 2013 15:05 |  #11

Phil, nevermind the class really has nothing to do with it... I have a nasty flu and my statement/Question most likely did come across wrong. So forget everything about the class I was upset and frustrated that the Camera "Pro" made the statement at the end of the class.... if you are going to shoot video dont use your T3i use a iphone. He followed that up with the iphone will do a better job. Thats all... I know that I am going to use my Ti for video, I know that I have a lot more to learn(a lot) I know that I will have to get some additional equipment if I want to get more serious about the video.... Bottom line I was looking for some more assuarance that I had made the right choice for the camera.

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Mar 11, 2013 13:07 |  #12

T3i is better, I guess you could use the iPhone for another angle or behind the scenes footage.


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Mar 11, 2013 15:17 as a reply to  @ Praverb Dot Net's post |  #13

I'm also a newb to DSLR's. This Magic Lantern.... Do you download it directly to the SD card of your camera? How exactly does that work?




  
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Mar 11, 2013 18:41 |  #14

iPhone 5's stabilization is amazing, so if you were shooting freehand, it will eliminate most shake. But to say that it is always better than the T3i is completely absurd!


I wonder if the video editors on The Titanic ever went, "Sorry, I can't right now. I'm busy synching the Titanic..."

  
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Mar 11, 2013 20:50 |  #15

I'm going to assume you're fairly educated in the use of a camera, so the T3i is probably better than an iPhone. The guy at the store seems like an idiot.


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