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Mar 11, 2013 16:19 |  #106
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OK, it the owner of the cash were identifiable, I would return it. I found a lady's wallet in a cart in the parking lot at Walmart. Her ID was inside, along with credit cards and $12 in cash. I drove to the address listed on the driver's license and return the wallet, contents intact. All of that does not mean I will step over unidentifiable cash on the sidewalk. Nor does it mean I wouldn't take 24-70 II for $300 if the opportunity arose. If I see you drop the bundle of $100s, I'd tell you. If not, I'll take it. Thanks. Fool.


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Mar 11, 2013 16:32 |  #107
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Dooku wrote in post #15703354 (external link)
If a person (or company) makes such an error, then that does NOT give you the right to jump on that to take advantage of the situation. What gives you the right, by TAKING advantage of someone else(or company) to aquire a financial gain? If a person mistakenly forgets to put his wallet in his coat and leaves it on a table when leaving a restaurant, do you take that wallet and think "a fool and his money deserve to be parted", because THAT is your reasoning.

What strikes me the most is that you never ever question your moral reasoning but only tout that message: "a fool and his money deserve to be parted". Seems to me you suffer from a major character deficiency.

Yes, I am afraid it does give me that right. You offer me something for nothing and I take, and you claim that makes ME wrong. Wrong. That makes you a fool.

And yes, a fool and his money actually do deserve to be parted. I don't actively seek opportunities to screw someone over. I have good feeback on POTN and a lot more on E-Bay. You don't get that by cheating people. I am not talking about taking something that isn't mine; I am not a thief. I am talking about accepting an offer someone else made. It the offer is stupid, how is that my problem? If you hand me a dollar, who am I to second guess you? I'll take it.

By the way, I have questioned the morality of a fool and his money deserve to be parted. It holds up well. If that bothers you, feel free to not make me any stupid offers. I'll get by.


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Mar 11, 2013 17:05 |  #108

TSchrief wrote in post #15703469 (external link)
OK, it the owner of the cash were identifiable, I would return it. I found a lady's wallet in a cart in the parking lot at Walmart. Her ID was inside, along with credit cards and $12 in cash. I drove to the address listed on the driver's license and return the wallet, contents intact. All of that does not mean I will step over unidentifiable cash on the sidewalk. Nor does it mean I wouldn't take 24-70 II for $300 if the opportunity arose. If I see you drop the bundle of $100s, I'd tell you. If not, I'll take it. Thanks. Fool.

Surely you have seen news articles where an elderly person has left some money behind on their way to deposit it to the bank. Luckily it wasn't someone like yourself that found it so there could be a happy ending on the evening news when the money gets returned.;)


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Yes, I am afraid it does give me that right. You offer me something for nothing and I take, and you claim that makes ME wrong. Wrong. That makes you a fool.

And yes, a fool and his money actually do deserve to be parted. I don't actively seek opportunities to screw someone over. I have good feeback on POTN and a lot more on E-Bay. You don't get that by cheating people. I am not talking about taking something that isn't mine; I am not a thief. I am talking about accepting an offer someone else made. It the offer is stupid, how is that my problem? If you hand me a dollar, who am I to second guess you? I'll take it.

By the way, I have questioned the morality of a fool and his money deserve to be parted. It holds up well. If that bothers you, feel free to not make me any stupid offers. I'll get by.

Luckily the U.S. court system doesn't often agree with your reasoning.

How interesting you include what an honest seller you are after making the "A fool and his money deserve to be parted" statement.

^^^And I'm really glad you made that statement and not me.^^^:lol:

I think we can all agree that at least for ourselves we know where we stand on this type of an issue. Plus now we know more about our fellow forum members and what a diverse group we are as are our opinions.


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Mar 11, 2013 17:06 |  #109

Watch your step with "Newegg" I agreed to purchase a new lens through them a few months ago. The seller noted only one existed. So, like you did I jumped on it. I tried to pay for it using my Visa CC. I got email from the person selling the lens trying chisel for a special bag and filter. I didn't need either, and was unwilling to pay anything extra. Suddenly the lens was withdrawn from sale. I checked back a few days later and the same seller was trying to sell the lens again. I print out all my transactions, and sent the history to Newegg. I have never heard from them. I'm wondering if the new lens was actually new, and what gives about the filters and bag. The lens was a Canon 70-200 f2.8L with IS for only $1200.00, to good to be true.


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Mar 11, 2013 18:27 |  #110

holy crap people .. you guys turned a funny a$$ thread into something else! seriously!! get over it!!

Yes, I hope they all get that lens for $299! and Yes, I am that guy who chased down a woman to return $3000 in cash! get over yourselves! really!


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Mar 11, 2013 21:01 |  #111

Amusing debate, but I don't see the ethical dilemma here at all. It's not as if you're robbing a blind defenseless old age pensioner. This is a transparent business transaction and you'd be a fool not to jump on such a great bargain if you saw one. Plus, the seller is under no obligation to sell anyway.

I also make a distinction between individual people and big companies/corporations​. The latter are big entities which are quite capable of looking after themselves and in turn will seek to exploit an advantageous position to feed their bottom line if given half a chance, so frankly I have no sympathy. You think most of the big companies in the world would have any scruples about taking advantage of their position if they had a monopoly, for instance? Think again. That's why they have anti-trust laws.




  
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Mar 11, 2013 22:28 |  #112

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If the OP has to admit, according to the demands of posters in here, that they saw the deal and decided to "take advantage" (semantics), then we should all admit that whoever listed the ad, clearly should not be listing ads for Newegg.

All of us in here knows what this lens costs. All of us. We don't work for Newegg nor are we being paid to know about the products being sold. The person being paid by Newegg to list the ad should. They should know what this item costs, there are unemployed people with better product knowledge and internet know-how, than the person who listed the ad.

The person being paid by Newegg should have re-read the listing once over (proofreading) before listing it on the site. A sales manager should have checked it over. Re-reading the ad once over before submitting it would have taken less than 60-seconds. 60-seconds of proof-reading, or potentially a $2,000 loss.

If the OP is to blame for anything at all, then Newegg is to blame as well. If it's the OP's responsibility to have a conscience then it's Newegg's responsibility to list the products at the correct prices. It's not the consumer's responsibility to protect a business's profit margin.

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So for all the nay-sayers: what if it was $1229 (still significantly below market) - would that make it alright? What about $1829 still well below the usual price, and probably a mistake - Would that be "unethical" to click "add to cart?"


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Mar 11, 2013 22:51 |  #113

A local tv station did a test and dropped 20 wallets around the city with $200 and some ID and 18 were returned with all the money in tact. People are generally morally good when it comes to other people.

However this is not a question of morality... There was an offer to sell goods at a certain price. You purchased at that price. That does not make you immoral or a thief.
If I knew nothing about the value of this lense and just happened to see it and buy it for $299 does that make me immoral somehow??


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Mar 11, 2013 22:53 |  #114

so did the OP get the lens for the listed price or not? Looks like the thread has deviated by long way :)


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Mar 11, 2013 22:57 |  #115

Hmm ... no cancellations, but no tracking numbers either. Surprised this isn't resolved by now.


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Mar 11, 2013 23:00 |  #116

After reading all 4 pages of this crap I really feel like the people who didn't get the hit on this jackpot are just butthurt and need a reason to hate on the others who did.. either way its a pretty tiring debate at this point and everyone should just calm down.


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Mar 11, 2013 23:20 |  #117

jrbdmb wrote in post #15704987 (external link)
Hmm ... no cancellations, but no tracking numbers either. Surprised this isn't resolved by now.

Their legal department is probably reviewing their policies to ensure they'll have no issue cancelling the orders. Hopefully someone didn't lose their job over making the error.


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Mar 11, 2013 23:26 |  #118

If there is no chance of them really shipping these out, what's up with this hypothetical "someone losin their job" thing?


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Mar 12, 2013 01:27 |  #119

catchquan wrote in post #15705000 (external link)
After reading all 4 pages of this crap I really feel like the people who didn't get the hit on this jackpot are just butthurt and need a reason to hate on the others who did.. either way its a pretty tiring debate at this point and everyone should just calm down.

I don't think anyone's upset about missing out on a deal that won't happen anyways...

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If there is no chance of them really shipping these out, what's up with this hypothetical "someone losin their job" thing?

I'm sure the mistake is at least leading to a few headaches at newegg...especially if they have to start dealing with idiots that want to complain about not getting their lens at the typo price...


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Mar 12, 2013 01:33 |  #120

DreDaze wrote in post #15705228 (external link)
I don't think anyone's upset about missing out on a deal that won't happen anyways...

I'm sure the mistake is at least leading to a few headaches at newegg...especially if they have to start dealing with idiots that want to complain about not getting their lens at the typo price...

Oh I didn't mean to imply that I think these orders would actually be fulfilled but it just sounds like a, "Screw you I hope you feel terrible for what you're doing even though I wished I could have ordered one at the 1% chance of the order going through."


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