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Basic glamour photography lenses Jason Cole : 16-35L, 24-105L, 100-400L

 
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Mar 11, 2013 18:19 |  #16

bobbyz wrote in post #15703914 (external link)
Hope you also looked at the glass OP owns.:)

I'm not the one who calls other people out but he seems to start a thread weekly about the same lenses (135L, 85L, 70-200LII) etc wth :confused:


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Mar 11, 2013 18:41 |  #17

KeyserSoze1 wrote in post #15703853 (external link)
I agree but for someone who owns a great deal of expensive lenses/gear, that's a bit of hypocritical of him to say.

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Mar 11, 2013 18:58 |  #18

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"So I have a PhaseOne hanging around my neck and I’m telling you it’s not about the gear. I got that PhaseOne by having to work my ass to the bone with minimal gear that was held together with gaff tape and the Holy Spirit. The PhaseOne didn’t get me here. The crap gear got me here. I’m also not shooting the same stuff I was with the D100 and Vivitar 285 that I used to shoot. The level of work I’m doing is rising and the quality of what I want to produce is rising. Gear helps. It does. It doesn’t make you a photographer though. That’s the stuff between your ears that makes you a photographer.

If you can do a lot with a little then you will grow. You’ll prosper. You’ll get to finally own some decent kit but I swear you’ll look back and realize that it wasn’t gear that got you to where you are.
~Zack Arias (external link)

I agree with him like I said earlier. I just personally don't like Zack Arias. He just talks a lot of crap and often contradicts himself. Solid photographer no doubt. Its just his personality is off.


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Mar 11, 2013 19:55 |  #19

KeyserSoze1 wrote in post #15703853 (external link)
I agree but for someone who owns a great deal of expensive lenses/gear, that's a bit of hypocritical of him to say.

I believe he made that remark in regards to when a person is just starting out and not to get caught up in gear acquisition syndrome before really understanding what you really need in relationship to what you shoot.


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Mar 11, 2013 20:31 |  #20

KeyserSoze1 wrote in post #15704090 (external link)
I agree with him like I said earlier. I just personally don't like Zack Arias. He just talks a lot of crap and often contradicts himself. Solid photographer no doubt. Its just his personality is off.

I can understand that he's not for everybody but, I have to say he did a webcast for Photoshelter about if he had to start all over in the business today, and he kept it very real. I think it was a solid presentation. He said he would go with a 5D "Classic", 35mm f/2, and a 85 f/1.8.

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Mar 11, 2013 20:58 |  #21

but its all about how you use the tools you have.


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Mar 12, 2013 03:00 |  #22

Studio work involves lots of light usually, pretty much any L elns and most of the decent non-Ls will perform well since they can be stopped down. Plus if you can use the middle of a zoom range most zooms at f8 will rock. 24-105 is only really weak (REALLY) weak at the wider end. 100-400 is only weakest at the very limit of the long end. Any of the macro lenses are about as sharp as you can get stopped down too. Just use what you have.


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Mar 12, 2013 09:13 |  #23

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Sometimes I hate this site. Hobbiest thinking vs pro thinking. I'm bitter toward people that have $20k+ gear with the attitude that you have to have all of it.

I'm with there ya' bud. Those clowns earning tons of money with their fancy 100-400 portrait lens and I'm just shooting kids soccer games with the 100-400 and getting absolutely nothing. makes me sick




  
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Mar 12, 2013 17:55 as a reply to  @ watt100's post |  #24

Its so obvious why he uses a long lens for glamour, if he gets to close it all steams up!!

Seriously though I love using long lenses at weddings, its just my style and gives me the look I want, perhaps this guy is the same...the telephoto look is the most pleasing to the human form in most cases but each to there own what they want to shoot..


The camera is just a storage box, it's the gLass in front that makes the image...

  
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Mar 12, 2013 17:58 |  #25

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I'm with there ya' bud. Those clowns earning tons of money with their fancy 100-400 portrait lens and I'm just shooting kids soccer games with the 100-400 and getting absolutely nothing. makes me sick

Takes a lot more to become a pro and earn a living from photography than spending loads of money on kit...that is a fact


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Mar 12, 2013 23:00 |  #26

Sounds like this is a successful photographer with money to burn on a huge studio. Longer lens generally make smoother bokeh than close wide aperture lens. So I guess one approach is to spend huge on the studio rather than the gear.
I'm sure he could buy a 100-400mm every month and more for what he's spending on this studio.


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Mar 13, 2013 01:13 |  #27

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And therein lies the difference: getting the job done vs excellence.

Was it getty images that had a category for the sharpest photo of the year?


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Mar 13, 2013 03:16 |  #28

As Bresson said, Sharpness is a Bourgeois Concept.

You use whatever tools you think you may need to get your vision out there.

Jason likes the way the 100-400 shoots, im sure its got a ton to do with the compression (When I can I certainly love shooting full length at 135+), Todd Laffer who's a fantastic wedding photographer is known for shooting a wide perspective at 200mm, his work is amazing.

So rather then be jealous of the size of jason's studio, and what lenses he has, look at his work, decide if you like it or not, borrow from it what you will... but realize that there is no be all end all lens for Every Single Photographer out there, you use the tools at your disposal to make the images you want to make, and if you're lucky enough to afford the tools you think you need... thats great!


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Mar 13, 2013 08:25 |  #29

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15709443 (external link)
Was it getty images that had a category for the sharpest photo of the year?

Not that I'm aware.


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Mar 14, 2013 14:00 |  #30

cwphoto wrote in post #15701515 (external link)
And therein lies the difference: getting the job done vs excellence.

A lot of times excellence doesn't pay for luch. You have to give your clients what he wants, not what we think they should have. Sometimes it is extreme quality, sometimes its reasonable prices.




  
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