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Basic glamour photography lenses Jason Cole : 16-35L, 24-105L, 100-400L

 
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Mar 15, 2013 06:12 |  #31

bobbyz wrote in post #15703914 (external link)
Hope you also looked at the glass OP owns.:)

Yep with the 70-200 F2.8 L IS USM II - I would think he was pretty well sorted.


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Mar 15, 2013 09:07 |  #32

CanonYouCan wrote in post #15697220 (external link)
Just watched a video about glamour photography...

Just out of curiosity, what's the title of the video and where did you find it? I'm curious to learn more about the wonderful world of glamour photography ;)!


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Mar 15, 2013 15:55 |  #33

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A lot of times excellence doesn't pay for luch. You have to give your clients what he wants, not what we think they should have. Sometimes it is extreme quality, sometimes its reasonable prices.

And then your competitor trumps you with the client's wants at higher quality - and all of a sudden you can't pay for 'luch'.

Why not do the job the best you can?


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Mar 15, 2013 16:28 |  #34

Yeah this is pretty odd. Then again in this analogy applies to me, I know how to build a computer from scratch, but no nothing about all of the latest parts. It is much more useful to know how to build a computer because if you know all about parts and order the good ones, you are going to have no idea what to do with them.


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Mar 15, 2013 18:27 |  #35

cwphoto wrote in post #15718995 (external link)
And then your competitor trumps you with the client's wants at higher quality - and all of a sudden you can't pay for 'luch'.

Why not do the job the best you can?

The best job is not about a little extra contrast and a little extra sharpness.

Oftentimes there's absolutely no benefit to having better kit. Sharpness for portraits is not needed. More contrast in lenses is not needed in studio where you don't shoot light into your lens.

But the bottom line is income is proceeds minus expenses. If you buy extra toys you don't need, it cuts into your profit.

If one turns off the weekend warrior mentality, the BUSINESS of photography is about the bottom line. If you can shoot with a 50 dollar camera, then that's what you shoot with.


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Mar 15, 2013 18:34 |  #36

cwphoto wrote in post #15718995 (external link)
And then your competitor trumps you with the client's wants at higher quality - and all of a sudden you can't pay for 'luch'.

Why not do the job the best you can?

Most often client simply wants to buy nice images. And you can make them with anything, even mobile phone.

However, it's good to have a nice equipment because it's helpful in bad conditions, and clients like to see what they're paying for. If you have tons of equipment and big crew, client will easily trust you, but it doesn't mean you can't mess up the job. :)


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Mar 16, 2013 02:52 |  #37

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The best job is not about a little extra contrast and a little extra sharpness.

Oftentimes there's absolutely no benefit to having better kit. Sharpness for portraits is not needed. More contrast in lenses is not needed in studio where you don't shoot light into your lens.

But the bottom line is income is proceeds minus expenses. If you buy extra toys you don't need, it cuts into your profit.

If one turns off the weekend warrior mentality, the BUSINESS of photography is about the bottom line. If you can shoot with a 50 dollar camera, then that's what you shoot with.

Don't agree, the right lens for this job is probably the same price or cheaper - and it will do everything better: less aberration, distortion, better AF, better colour, contrast, resolving power.

The choice of a zoom lens for studio work is the wrong choice - end of story.


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Mar 16, 2013 02:53 |  #38

_igi wrote in post #15719507 (external link)
Most often client simply wants to buy nice images. And you can make them with anything, even mobile phone.

However, it's good to have a nice equipment because it's helpful in bad conditions, and clients like to see what they're paying for. If you have tons of equipment and big crew, client will easily trust you, but it doesn't mean you can't mess up the job. :)

Discerning clients (generally more valuable) don't want 'nice' images taken with a mobile phone..


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Mar 16, 2013 15:52 |  #39

cwphoto wrote in post #15720562 (external link)
Don't agree, the right lens for this job is probably the same price or cheaper - and it will do everything better: less aberration, distortion, better AF, better colour, contrast, resolving power.

The choice of a zoom lens for studio work is the wrong choice - end of story.

There's about a million other things to pay someone for photography.

If your rely on equipment to get a competitive edge - good luck.

NO CLIENT is going to ask you what lens you're going to shoot with, unless they're a weekend warrior getting into the game.


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Mar 17, 2013 03:09 |  #40

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15722046 (external link)
If your rely on equipment to get a competitive edge - good luck.

You don't think tools can give you a competitive edge? Interesting.


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Mar 17, 2013 16:13 |  #41

cwphoto wrote in post #15723572 (external link)
You don't think tools can give you a competitive edge? Interesting.

In the situations I've specifically spelled out letter by letter. No.


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