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Need advice on 70-200 f/4 IS ...70-300L

 
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Mar 14, 2013 15:18 |  #1

I love shooting landscapes and I like shooting them with a long lens as much as wide angle. I want to buy a 70-200 f/4 IS and now I'm wondering if I should go the extra cash and get the 70-300L. Please help me out here. I think IQ is probably close with both of these but I'm really stuck in pulling the trigger.


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Mar 14, 2013 15:49 |  #2

You may have already checked out this POTN thread but if not, here it is: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=955129

I really like the 70-300L but I've never had one of the 70-200s. There are many people in the above thread who have experience with both and I think you'll find their comments both interesting and informative.


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Mar 14, 2013 15:55 |  #3

Wrong link Kim.


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Mar 14, 2013 15:57 |  #4

I own and love a 70-200 f4 IS and have rented a 70-300L.

Both lenses are outstanding in every respect. Both are fairly small and easy to carry; the f4 IS is thinner and lighter, the 70-300 is heavier but shorter when not zoomed out. The 70-300L expands when zoomed, the f4 IS does not. Both have lightning fast AF, terrific IS and wonderful IQ.

The advantage of the 70-300L is the extra reach. The advantage of the f4 IS is its compact format and light weight.

I'd buy the 70-300L in a heartbeat if I could afford to do so without selling my f4 IS, which I just can't bring myself to let go.

If I were starting from scratch today, I'd buy the 70-300L.


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Mar 14, 2013 16:12 as a reply to  @ ceegee's post |  #5

I have the 70-200/4L IS, and am considering switching to the 70-300L.

My reasons are, i would sell the 70-200 and my 300/4L IS, and go to the one lens.

The 70-300 still gives you f/4 from 70mm to ~100mm.. but the 70-200 w/1.4x tc knocks you to 98mm @ f/5.6. 300/5.6 would give me the equivalent to the 70-200 w/tc, but no swapping TC in and out! I love the 300/4L IS, and having 300 at f/4..and the ability to get 400mm with IS(1.4x tc.. for 420/5.6) and AF, but the purple-fringing gets on my nerves a lot. It would also lighten my bag.

Cons for me, and a big one, is the extending with zooming, and consequently more chance for internal dust, plus possible zoom-creep or zoom-lock. Also the variable aperture.. it doesn't bother me on my 15-85 as a walkabout, but with a long lens, and say a bird flies by.. i don't want to have to check aperture in that split-second. And last but not least, issue with a tc. I want the ability to have 400mm with IS at the very least, and with AF would be better.


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Mar 14, 2013 16:15 |  #6

Ooops. How odd.... another try: https://photography-on-the.net/forum/showthre​ad.php?t=955129

thx LJG


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Mar 14, 2013 19:14 as a reply to  @ Phoenixkh's post |  #7

For the reading I've done about both these lenses I guess for the extra cash it may be worth going with the 70-300. One part that I'm not crazy about on the 70-300 is the external zoom. On the other hand the constant f/4 on the 70-200 is nice to have. Man, Canon really knows how mess with your head!

I'm going to purchase one of these it's just a matter of which one.


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Mar 14, 2013 21:06 |  #8

70-300L - for me, the extra reach was well worth it. AF is lightning quick, IQ is excellent, and above all the IS is what I find incredible. Easily 4 stops, its something a lot of the owners of this lens can't stop raving about. I've gotten 1/25th @300mm and a perfectly sharp image with it.

Both are great lenses, it depends what is more important to you. In the end for me, the reach was more important than the variable aperture. At 300mm you can get some beautiful shallow DOF as well. If the only part about the 70-300L that bothers you is the external zoom, thats purely aesthetic IMO :)

I suggest you rent both if you can and see what you think. When I was looking for a longer lens, I rented the 100-400 and the 70-300L, and the 70-300L blew me away. If you rent them, then you can see if the extra 100mm is worth it for you. I love to shoot wildlife in my spare time (and sports / dog agility /equestrian sports the majority of the time) so for me, on FF, this lens is perfect.

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Mar 15, 2013 01:53 as a reply to  @ Christina.DazzleByDesign's post |  #9

F4 IS for me. I think it's the best balance of fast aperture and low weight.


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Mar 16, 2013 15:49 as a reply to  @ FEChariot's post |  #10

Well, I think I'm going to go with the 70-300L. One more question.... Can I get away with putting this lens on my tripod without the collar?


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Mar 16, 2013 16:10 |  #11

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Well, I think I'm going to go with the 70-300L. One more question.... Can I get away with putting this lens on my tripod without the collar?

I've done it. I don't use my tripod much at all though so I only did it once awhile back. It was fine, I was using a ballhead. My camera was gripped, so if would be better balanced if it wasn't gripped and on a tripod. The Canon collar for this lens is stupidly expensive (they don't even produce it because no one will buy it) but there are a lot of third party options.


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Mar 16, 2013 17:50 as a reply to  @ Christina.DazzleByDesign's post |  #12

Christina,
My final decision in buying the 70-300L was really based on your input in this thread. Your detailed info was very helpful. My primary reason for this lens will be for landscapes.

I once had the 70-200 non IS and got rid of it. I miss shooting landscapes with a long lens. I'm going to be picking up the 70-300L tomorrow or Monday. Can't wait to get my hands on it and start putting it to good use.

Thank you Christina for taking the time.:cool:


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Mar 16, 2013 19:17 |  #13

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Christina,
My final decision in buying the 70-300L was really based on your input in this thread. Your detailed info was very helpful. My primary reason for this lens will be for landscapes.

I once had the 70-200 non IS and got rid of it. I miss shooting landscapes with a long lens. I'm going to be picking up the 70-300L tomorrow or Monday. Can't wait to get my hands on it and start putting it to good use.

Thank you Christina for taking the time.:cool:

:D I'm glad I could help you come to your decision! I love that compressed look telephotos give to landscapes. Don't forget to join the lens thread for it so you can share your images! It's a really friendly group of people over there :)


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Mar 16, 2013 21:18 as a reply to  @ Christina.DazzleByDesign's post |  #14

I've had both and you can't go wrong with either. I found the 70-200 4is just a tad limiting in fl even with 1.4x ext... not a big fan of extenders. The 70-300L was great sharp at 300 and is brilliant as attested by Christina. In the end I succumbed to the desire for faster aperture and sold to buy the 70-200 2.8 is mk2... but I miss the lighter weight and reach still of the 70-300L.


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Mar 17, 2013 08:23 |  #15

flyfish1 wrote in post #15722027 (external link)
Well, I think I'm going to go with the 70-300L. One more question.... Can I get away with putting this lens on my tripod without the collar?

Marginal in my view, it's quite heavy and chunky
Only beef with this lens - it should come std. And increase the cost by £40. The price of these is ludcrious £197 ! Look around I found it for £134 delivered.

BUT The IS is so good - I hardly ever use it on a tripod!

Maybe one of the £15 plastic / abs ones would do!


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