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My two Cents on Buying a Camera Body

 
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Mar 18, 2013 23:05 |  #1

So you want a new camera?- sorry about the length.


Last year my 30d ‘s shutter broke- for the second time. Although I really liked the camera and had no plans on buying another, I felt that the camera had “bad mojo” and it was time to switch. I spent the better part of two months looking at forums, reviews, pictures trying to decide on a camera. I have a 20d as my backup and I have used all sorts of cameras from Leicas to 4x5 field cameras.

I didn't know what I wanted to buy. I knew a few things from my experience with the 30 and 20d. I kicked around, 5d, 7d, 5dmk2, etc. Obviously some of the choices were going to be used. The voice in my head was worried about the age of the camera, the shutter count, the dust issue (or non issue). I had about a $1400.00 budget. The other voice was talking about “buy glass”. This term wasn’t invented for digital photography. It is important with film too.

As you struggle with camera decisions- think about it- the one thing that devalues fastest is the camera body. Good lenses don’t. The $600 5d was $ 2,000 + dollars not too long ago…. Hmmm

So I played with several cameras. 7d was nice, but chunky. I am not a fan of all the focus boxes in the viewfinder. I looked at the 60d. Nice, but the reviews said it was plastic and was a fancy Rebel. I looked at a used 50d. Used 40d…. etc., etc.

At the end of the day decided on the 60d. It has a great build- despite the reviews. The swivel screen is awesome. I do a lot of tripod work- handy. When my 30d broke the first time, I used my Samsung TL500 in Yosemite. It has a swivel screen. You can get a lot of nice angles without laying in the dirt (or snow). Usually for most off hand work I do not open the screen. It’s a time warp not looking at the back of the camera. The control wheel with the pad around it- great I like it better than the joystick. Everything is in one spot.

Picture quality is fantastic. Battery life is phenomenal. Oh- also I bought it refurb from Adorama. It was new- no clicks and nothing to show it was ever used. $600.00 shipped. Enough left in the bank for a good lens.

Lessons learned- don’t believe all the reviews. Spend money on glass, not the camera. It will be out of date the day you buy it. Some of the opinions I received were from folks that didn’t even own the product they recommended. Try the camera. Handle it. Take some pictures. Switch settings. See if it works the way you like.

I hope this helps the camera hunters.

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Mar 18, 2013 23:19 |  #2

I am enjoying my 60d as well.


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Mar 18, 2013 23:33 |  #3

So Matt, what glass did you buy? :D


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Mar 19, 2013 00:04 as a reply to  @ MakisM1's post |  #4

That was another debate altogether.... I bought the new Sigma 17-70 Contemporary. It is a great lens. Sharp and a great range on the 60d.
I sold my Tamron 17-35 and a couple other dog lenses. I am looking to see how the Sigma 30mm (Art) will pan out... I have a 50mm macro and 70-200L - they are nice lenses and work well with the 60d.

Here is a shot of some yard art. I believe it was taken at 1/320, f4 45mm, ISO 200.

IMAGE: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-YlzDmDk5cQk/UUf0E0w-0sI/AAAAAAAACI4/ao740EONZTc/s800/IMG_1703.jpg

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Mar 19, 2013 05:37 |  #5

That's a good combo, the 60d and sigma 17-70mm.
I use that siggy quite a bit and really haven't found anything I dislike about it.


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Mar 19, 2013 07:25 |  #6

Great choice Matt. I bought ymy 60D at the high point of the hate debate. It wasn't this, it wasn't that and the swivel screen would fall off in a week. None of it happened and the 60D has more than earned it's place as a solid body. I can't see my ever giving mine up. It's also paired with the sigma 17-70.

In a word: Enjoy!



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Mar 19, 2013 08:19 |  #7

Ah yes, the great hate debate. Everyone called it a super rebel and it wasn't meant as a compliment.

I still think it's a wonderful camera. At $600, it may just be the best dslr bargain out there.


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Mar 19, 2013 08:30 |  #8

sixtygp wrote in post #15730764 (external link)
That was another debate altogether.... I bought the new Sigma 17-70 Contemporary. It is a great lens. Sharp and a great range on the 60d.
I sold my Tamron 17-35 and a couple other dog lenses. I am looking to see how the Sigma 30mm (Art) will pan out... I have a 50mm macro and 70-200L - they are nice lenses and work well with the 60d.

Here is a shot of some yard art. I believe it was taken at 1/320, f4 45mm, ISO 200.

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Nothing wrong with that picture - it's sharp and has nice colors. I think you're on to something. I find myself using my Leica V-Lux 4 more and more. It has a long reach, 600mm with a constant 2.8 aperture, plus it's very light to carry around. Here's a pic I took in Prague last month with this camera:

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Mar 19, 2013 08:33 |  #9

Have you tried it for low light/high ISO shots at all yet? If so how does it handle noise?

Reason I ask is that I'm planning on getting a 60d Body soon for live gigs ( my 1000d does okay for natural light street stuff ) and one of the main reasons is the higher ISO.


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Mar 19, 2013 12:54 as a reply to  @ PMGphotog's post |  #10

The low light shots are good. I will post a couple made with my 50mm lens. I had no issues with shots at 800 to 1600 iso. I am not sure if I have some at any higher settings.




  
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Mar 19, 2013 13:11 |  #11

I loved my 60d and the only reason I have my 7d now is I needed the MA feature.


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Mar 19, 2013 20:24 |  #12

Pat McGuire wrote in post #15731480 (external link)
Have you tried it for low light/high ISO shots at all yet? If so how does it handle noise?

Reason I ask is that I'm planning on getting a 60d Body soon for live gigs ( my 1000d does okay for natural light street stuff ) and one of the main reasons is the higher ISO.


This was iso 1000. 50mm Sigma Macro

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Mar 19, 2013 20:42 |  #13

Pretty good advice. I try to buy the best Canon lenses I can afford, but the 2.8 L's are still a bit out of my price range. I sold the Ef-s 17-55 when I upgraded to FF for almost as much as I originally paid. I recommend this lens for any crop user. I'd advise not going to FF until you have great glass. IMO you are wasting money otherwise. Great pics!


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Mar 19, 2013 21:45 |  #14

After 16 months with my refurbed 60D I'm still satisfied.

My trio of primes-30/1.4, 100/2 & 200/2.8 has really maximized my bang-for-buck/IQ. I may admire other bodies and what their capabilities are, but I am more than pleased with my real world results.

For just under $2K I have a system capable if shooting pretty much anything.


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Mar 19, 2013 23:02 |  #15

Matt,

I enjoyed reading your post, and think that the advice you offer makes a lot of sense.

It makes good financial sense to buy a camera after it has depreciated - that's what I have done. Heck, it's all I can afford to do!

Thanks for sharing your experience and your insights with us.


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