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Mar 18, 2013 16:45 |  #16

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I do not understand why this is such a hard question for so many people. Of course people are going to try and get a service for as little as possible. You have an opportunity to upsell your coworker to a more reasonable price or simply say thanks but no thanks. Each person that does this as a hobby and supplements with the odd paid job will have their own opinion as to what their threshold is that makes it worthwhile. If they don't come up to this then I would pass. Its a pretty black and white question for me.

Sorry! I'm not a professional photographer, I was asking for advice on how to handle the situation. Please don't post on my post when all you are doing is saying it's simple and looking down your nose at me for asking such a "novice" question. Don't act like a snob :/


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Mar 18, 2013 16:54 |  #17

He's not being snobby at all. It's a common theme question from many beginners - what do I charge? Basically, word to the wise - if you're not comfortable with shooting it, and if it's not worth taking time away from your family/friends/hobbies on your weekend days, don't do it. Simple as that.

What everyone charges is their business. Question is - is it worth it to you to do it for that price? Many people would say no, and for those who say yes, might regret it later.


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Mar 18, 2013 17:11 |  #18

It came across like that, I just didn't know how to go about either saying no or asking for the price to be more (second option will go no where) with out it being awkward at work


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Mar 20, 2013 17:56 |  #19

Mattyy wrote in post #15729269 (external link)
Sorry! I'm not a professional photographer, I was asking for advice on how to handle the situation. Please don't post on my post when all you are doing is saying it's simple and looking down your nose at me for asking such a "novice" question. Don't act like a snob :/

Whoa....easy tiger. There was nothing snobby about that answer. This question comes up on almost a daily basis and the answer really is as simple as outlined. Is your work of such quality that it commands a higher price than that? If the answer is yes, simply tell the individual that your price for events of that nature is XXXX (insert figure you are comfortable with) and the ball is back in their court. They can either hire you or find someone else willing to work for their original offer.

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It came across like that, I just didn't know how to go about either saying no or asking for the price to be more (second option will go no where) with out it being awkward at work

It didn't read it that way at all. Sheldon is a well respected and helpful member of the forum. His answer certainly was not out of line. If you are not comfortable with asking the potential customer for what you deem to be a fair price, simply decline the job and move on. There is no reason for the situation to be awkward....simply explain that you won't be able to do the job, you don't need to be any more specific than that.


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Mar 21, 2013 04:37 |  #20

Hey ... it's a great deal if you've never shot a wedding and want to get into it but you need something to show a perspective Bridezilla (sorry, couldn't resist :-) But it sounds like you're a bit beyond this point so I would put my best smile on and give her a cheery No Thank You. Often such a completely unreasonable person as she does turn into a true "Bridezilla" ... just something to be aware of from what I'm told.

The other option I suppose is you could tell her to try and save about 100£ a month, give you a 30% deposit in about 6 months and another third about a year out with the remainder at the wedding or there abouts. She may ... think that's a terrific idea, although I'm guessing it's not in the cards but it's the thought that counts :eek:

Also tell her .. what ever else they spend on the wedding, food Limo, Hall, etc. is gone in a matter of HOURS. Your pics are there FOREVER. Maybe she'll understand the perspective ... maybe :rolleyes:




  
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Mar 21, 2013 04:39 |  #21

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I do think this is the best response though :cool:




  
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Mar 21, 2013 04:49 |  #22

"Sorry, your price point is too low. Unfortunately, I have to cover my photography expenses, education, experience, and time. Craigslist could be a great place to look for a photographer to match your budget."


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Mar 21, 2013 05:16 |  #23

I did my first wedding completely free of charge and even covered the fuel to drive an hour there and an hour back.

For me it was worth it because the expectations from the couple were so low and it was all part of my longer term strategy.

Work out what a fair price is for YOU, pitch that, and your cost and her budget can't line up, you have your answer.


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Mar 21, 2013 15:01 |  #24

$75?? I would just say I'm sorry I can't. if she asks why just tell her that her budget is far too low for your going rate and leave it at that.




  
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Mar 21, 2013 15:14 |  #25

I "paid" a friend £50 to shoot my wedding. Which was a small affair in a registrars, just me and the Mrs, our 2 kids and her mum and my dad. He wanted to do it for free as a favour and £50 was the most he would take from me for his time. He took 40 or less shots, the thing lasted 30 mins and his PP time was about an hour. I just got him to put the end results on a memory stick.

The shots were practice for him, and better than me doing them myself. I would have paid him a couple of hundred but he insisted on £50 under duress.

When he did non mates weddings, he has a contract and also meets with the bride and groom beforehand to discuss what they want. He then charges based on total hours + shot requirement + PP time and if they want prints/albums or digital only etc. Cheapest wedding he did was £400 UK and some he charges maybe £1200-£1500 depending on the package. He likes his food so he usually negotiates a meal too :)

I think that my point is that he was worth more than £50, but we also had very low requirements for the shots and it was 30 mins shooting, 1 hour travel, I bought him a pint and he did 1 hour to do PP. But, for a "real" wedding he would spend a whole day, pay an assistant/second shooter, have meetings and emails to deal with, have to organise the wedding party, do an album presentation and spend a lot of time on PP.

What he got out of it was practice in a place he hadn't shot before ( he has had several shots there since ). An easy client requirement ( we both work at the same place and are friends, I just wanted some simple shots ) and a pint and £50 for 2.5 hours work, which is more than we earn at our main jobs.

I got some shots of our wedding and a nice guy who was a friend taking them.


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Mar 21, 2013 16:30 |  #26

I would tell Her the price You feel is reasonable and offer to throw in a free 11X14 print at that price.. If She won't do it then offer to help Her find someone that's in Her price range...


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Mar 21, 2013 17:24 |  #27

"Do you want me to shoot your precious memories with my $75 point and shoot camera or my $1000 professional quality camera? Oh, I am sorry, but I can't bring my $1000 camera to a $75 event."


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Mar 21, 2013 17:59 |  #28

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"Do you want me to shoot your precious memories with my $75 point and shoot camera or my $1000 professional quality camera? Oh, I am sorry, but I can't bring my $1000 camera to a $75 event."

^ This is so true, good comparison

Staszek wrote in post #15738795 (external link)
"Sorry, your price point is too low. Unfortunately, I have to cover my photography expenses, education, experience, and time. Craigslist could be a great place to look for a photographer to match your budget."

Thanks, that may be a better approach than the others on here that just say "no" at least it doesn't seem so blunt.

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I did my first wedding completely free of charge and even covered the fuel to drive an hour there and an hour back.

Admittedly I haven't done any wedding before but I do have a price for other work, and before hers I have family and friends weddings lined up, so... It's not like hers will be "testing the waters" so to speak ;)


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Mar 21, 2013 18:07 |  #29

bw!

Mattyy wrote in post #15729269 (external link)
Sorry! I'm not a professional photographer, I was asking for advice on how to handle the situation. Please don't post on my post when all you are doing is saying it's simple and looking down your nose at me for asking such a "novice" question. Don't act like a snob :/




  
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Mar 21, 2013 18:15 |  #30

You don't want to do the wedding for the offered fee, so gently and respectfully decline. Something like, "Thank you for asking but since I only do a few weddings my fees start at £500."


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