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Mar 22, 2013 23:32 |  #1

I'm not sure if anyone has seen the handcart Blair Phillips has and makes, but I was hoping to recreate one. Any DIYourselvers ever attempt something like the LR-02 by Blair Phillips. Here is a a link.
http://blairphillipswo​rkshops.com …tem/38315/image​ID/0/lr-02 (external link)




  
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Mar 23, 2013 08:48 |  #2

That's pretty cool but damn is it pricey. Just running some quick numbers I could probably have one bent locally and coated for half the price and probably 2-3 for the price of one. Or just repurpose a dolly as is.


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Mar 23, 2013 08:59 |  #3

Have a look at this thread:

https://photography-on-the.net …/showthread.php​?t=1030167




  
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Mar 23, 2013 09:12 |  #4

The biggest problem I see with both carts is that the height of the light is very limited. The first one the max height is 4.5'. I can't recall ever having my key light that low. The other cart designs that tetrode posted looks better but it too suffers from "altitude" issues. Personally I prefer to simply carry my lights but there are times when I wished I had a cart. I do have one that works well on smooth surfaces but not grass.

edit: there are some other designs in tetrodes thread that fix the height issues.


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Mar 23, 2013 10:25 |  #5

Another interesting and more ambitious location mobility solution can be seen here:

http://www.carolinawil​dphoto.com/EquipmentCa​rt.htm (external link)

Variations on the theme were discussed in the Elinchrom thread starting here:

https://photography-on-the.net …ead.php?t=10635​96&page=54

PS: Jim, please feel free to call me "Dave" rather than tetrode :-)




  
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Mar 23, 2013 10:55 |  #6

For the hand cart I'd run to Harbor Freight if you have one and buy a solid cart, then I'd cut it in half so it will easily fit in your trunk. You could then weld in inserts into the tubes in the lower half that allow you to quickly attach the upper half with some cotter pins. You can replace the wheels with bigger ones if needed. I'd probably weld a metal cup to the bottom plate of the hand cart so I could take the legs off a light stand and pin it into place there. You could also slip a metal counterweight over it if need be. Affix the upper portion of the light stand to the handle of the cart with a grip, or drill a hole and pin it in.

Now you got a full size cart and stand.
Use misc bungees and s-biners or what not to hang things. Drill holes where needed, etc....

Sounds good in theory, anyway. If you took the hand cart to an exhaust shop it would probably cost 30 bucks for all the welding. Add maybe 50 more if you wanted it powder coated. I'm cheap and would probably just spray paint it.




  
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Mar 23, 2013 11:21 |  #7

Does it come with a Red Trolley?
Does warranty cover a back MRI?


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Mar 23, 2013 14:09 |  #8

Personally I don't like the first one posted in this thread at all. Looks rather unstable with a very small footprint that has had no revision to unlevel surfaces. Just picture setting that up on a bit of a downward slope with a nice big softbox, and then receiving a good swift tail-wind.

Personally I think I might be more tempted to go with a custom stand base centred around something more closely resembling a small golf bag cart, where the wheels double as one set of legs in a tripod base for the stand. (Pull the other two legs away from the cart, and extend them to the proper length so a telescopic upright is pointed to vertical.)


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Mar 23, 2013 14:36 as a reply to  @ Luckless's post |  #9

I new you guys/girls would come through. Thank you. I will review everthing.

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Mar 23, 2013 22:27 |  #10

Check out the Rock N Roller line too. A DJ friend of mine showed them to me and I am thinking on buying one to transport my gear from the car to the site and serve as a computer station too.

http://rocknrollercart​.com/ (external link)


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Mar 23, 2013 22:38 |  #11

tetrode wrote in post #15746527 (external link)
PS: Jim, please feel free to call me "Dave" rather than tetrode :-)

I will be happy to. I just didn't want others to say "Dave who?". ;)


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Jul 04, 2013 14:32 |  #12

I am actually working on one using parts in my garage. I saw Blair in Atlanta this past year and thought hey, that would be cool.

I am using a fairly small hand cart with a fold up flat piece near the bottom. I have a light stand attached using auto hose clamps and it will go close to 10 feet up but come down to about 4.5 feet in total height so it will fit in the back of my Suburban.

Right now just waiting for my Vagabond Mini Lithium and VML Bracket. I also have one or more sand bags I can use for balance if necessary. Will have flexibility on the stand for a soft box, beauty dish, speed light or pretty much whatever I need to use for a shoot. I anticipate attaching a container or bag of sorts to carry smaller gear (perhaps something from LowePro) and/or serve as a counter balance.

Waiting for pieces and returning from vacation but anticipate it will be completed with the exception of painting by the end of July.

Then again, perhaps all of the planning won't work at all but I think it will be fine and very useful.


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Jul 04, 2013 16:00 |  #13

stewbeth wrote in post #15745485 (external link)
I'm not sure if anyone has seen the handcart Blair Phillips has and makes, but I was hoping to recreate one. Any DIYourselvers ever attempt something like the LR-02 by Blair Phillips. Here is a a link.
http://blairphillipswo​rkshops.com …tem/38315/image​ID/0/lr-02 (external link)

looks too short and not practical for storage in cars


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Jul 30, 2013 17:51 as a reply to  @ tongki's post |  #14

Finished my project. Total cost before adding equipment purchases--about $35.

Used a hand cart that had been idle in my garage for about 5 years. Sanded and painted it black, cleaned and lubed the wheels. Added an extension cord holder from Home Depot to carry power cords, extension cords or whatever. Picked up a small RubberMaid bin with a lid and some velcro to hold things like VML charger power cables or whatever. Took an old light stand that had broken legs, removed the leg mechanism and attached it to the handle of the hand truck with three automotive hose clamps covered with black tape then epoxied to the handle. The LowePro lens bags and case were in a closet.

I add two super clamps and the VML. I also decided to go with the VML Bracket which, while pricey helped me feel better about the VML. The second super clamp is just for flexibility of lighting, umbrellas or whatever. The main lighting can handle lightweight strobes, SpeedLites, softboxes or whatever I need.

Height with light stand down--just an inch or so beyond 4 feet. Height with light stand extended a little less than 8 1/2 feet to the bottom of the strobe. This works for me and was fun to build. Photos to be posted soon.


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Jul 31, 2013 18:10 |  #15

I like this one from TriCoast.

http://www.youtube.com​/watch?v=YVA3DU-rUEw (external link)


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