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Mar 24, 2013 09:59 |  #1

I am wondering if it would be benificial to purchase the ef 85mm f/1.8 USM lens. I currently own a ef 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM, I am told by others that it would be a waist of money since my 70-200 has the same range. Iwould get better lower light capabilitys with the 85 since its over a stop faster. But my 70-200 has image stabilization to make up for that loss. Do you think i would be waisting my money buying this lens. I have read a lot of positive reviews on the 85, but most that posted reveiws do not own the 70-200. My only grip about the 70-200 is after a couple of hours it starts to feel pretty heavy.
I would like everyones thoughts on this.
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Mar 24, 2013 10:13 |  #2

What specifically are you looking to shoot with the 85/1.8 and how do you think the 1 and 1/3 stop faster maximum aperture will be useful for that subject?

For example.....if the challenge is handholding the 70-200 in low light while shooting relatively static subjects then you are correct in assuming that the IS will be a better help to you than the faster aperture.

If the challenge is shooting sports in low light and you are struggling to freeze motion with the 70-200, then the faster 85mm prime would be helpful.

And if you are just trying to control background blur, then a faster lens will do that, but will also give shallower DOF. Just backing up and using a longer focal length on the zoom might be another approach.


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Mar 24, 2013 10:22 |  #3

I have not had any trouble shooting sports yet, I have had decent light and can freeze motion pretty well with the 70-200. I guess the main reason i would get the 85 is for portraits. I do get real nice background blur with my 70-200. All i have are zoom L series lenses. The 85 is a prime lens and wondering if their is any advantage of getting this besides being lighter and 1 1/3 stops faster. I was also told the 85 produces really sharp images, would be nice to know how it compairs to the 70-200 at the same focal length and aperture.


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Mar 24, 2013 10:32 |  #4

I had a 85 1.8, it was my primary lens on a crop body for shooting high school sports and other indoor news paper assignments. For this type of work, IMO, it can't be beat. Fast AF, small package and great IQ. After I quit shooting for the local paper I found I did not use it at all. I might have used it on a FF as I found it a little on the long side for indoor candid family shots on my crop body. I sold the lens and do not really miss it. Now that I'm looking at going to full frame I would not mind having it to try again.


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Mar 24, 2013 12:18 |  #5

In my opinion, primes reign supreme for portrait photography. I own the 70-200 2.8L IS II and I used to own the 85 1.8. I upgraded to the 85 1.2 and while I'm still learning that lens, I love it and I always grab my primes for any sort of portraiture. Yes, the 70-200 is outstanding, but it just can't quite touch the level of performance that a good prime gives you. Both in terms of speed, and bokeh and subject isolation.

The good news is that if you shop carefully, and you don't mind spending $350 up front, you can practically own the 85 1.8 for free. For example, I bought a new one on sale 3 years ago for $335 and spent another $25 on the lens hood. And then I sold the lens/hood combo a few months ago for $350. Ten bucks for a 3-yr rental isn't too bad...

Food for thought,
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Mar 24, 2013 12:19 as a reply to  @ HighPlainsPhotographer's post |  #6

I don't mind having a 135L next to my 70-200 2.8L II either.
This is for the moments you want to go compact or less in the spotlight on the road.

In past I had 85L and twice 85 1.8.
It can be that I re-buy the 85 1.8 later, great price/quality.
Only some disturbing purple wide open, but 85L has this too in some bright lightning conditions.

I opted for 135L as a compact prime next to my 70-200 2.8L II cause it has perfect IQ, it's a magical lens, another league.
So it's no waste of money, just a small investment in best price/quality glass :-D


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Mar 24, 2013 12:27 |  #7

It's only about $320 used, and it is significantly smaller and lighter than your tele. I also believe the IQ is at least as good if not better. Go for it.


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Mar 24, 2013 12:42 |  #8

scotiez wrote in post #15749437 (external link)
I am wondering if it would be benificial to purchase the ef 85mm f/1.8 USM lens. I currently own a ef 70-200mm f/2.8L IS USM, I am told by others that it would be a waist of money since my 70-200 has the same range. Iwould get better lower light capabilitys with the 85 since its over a stop faster. But my 70-200 has image stabilization to make up for that loss. Do you think i would be waisting my money buying this lens. I have read a lot of positive reviews on the 85, but most that posted reveiws do not own the 70-200. My only grip about the 70-200 is after a couple of hours it starts to feel pretty heavy.
I would like everyones thoughts on this.
Thank you for your replies.

the reason that you see lenses like the 85 1.8 flipped so often is because after an initial honeymoon period most folks realize they don't "need" the lens. and the guys that do "need" the lens don't need to ask.


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Mar 24, 2013 13:09 |  #9

ed rader wrote in post #15749969 (external link)
the reason that you see lenses like the 85 1.8 flipped so often is because after an initial honeymoon period most folks realize they don't "need" the lens. and the guys that do "need" the lens don't need to ask.

hahaha .. good point, thank you for your reply. I may just hold off for a while to see. I have 2 lenses that i can do what i like to do. Urban and rural landscapes, Old or abandon buildings, and some portraits. I don't do alot of portraits so i think i can just get by with my 70-200.
But i still want to hear peoples opinions. I can still change my mind and buy one tomorrow. LOL


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Mar 24, 2013 13:18 |  #10

i just checked, I could get one for $369.00 brand new today. would be kinda nice to have atleast one prime.


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Mar 24, 2013 13:27 |  #11

scotiez wrote in post #15750073 (external link)
i just checked, I could get one for $369.00 brand new today. would be kinda nice to have atleast one prime.

Pull the trigger! You can't go wrong for the money.

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Mar 24, 2013 13:37 |  #12

The 85 1.8 is a great lens. In my opinion, it's a somewhat of a "specialty lens", since it delivers extraordinary results for the type of photographs it's mostly used for, portraits. I have several different lenses that I use regularly, and when I know I am going to probably need a portrait lens, I make sure to bring along my 85 (which I seldomly use for anything else, stupid me), and after I shoot a few with it.... my eyes pop, and I am instantly in love with it all over again.

It has never disappointed me, but the only thing I regret about it is that I don't use it as much as I probably should. I need to make time for this lens.


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Mar 24, 2013 15:05 |  #13

plumgoo wrote in post #15750123 (external link)
It has never disappointed me, but the only thing I regret about it is that I don't use it as much as I probably should. I need to make time for this lens.

I feel the same way, except for one thing: replace the last word with "wife". I tend to spend too much time with my lenses! :lol:

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Mar 24, 2013 15:30 |  #14
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I have the 85 1.8 and Sigma 70-200 2.8 OS. Two different lenses for two different purposes. Both nice. Buy it.


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Mar 24, 2013 16:25 |  #15

I prefer fast primes over the large, heavy 70-200 f/2.8 lenses. The 85mm f/1.8 is one of the great bargains in the Canon lineup, IMO. Like others have mentioned, mine does not get that much use since I went full frame, but I couldn't imagine selling it.


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