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Syncing audio on 24p timeline in Premiere Pro

 
dmonk
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Mar 22, 2013 13:46 |  #1

So let's say you have a Tascam/Zoom H1/H4n etc. recording externally.
You have a camera shooting at 24p. (23.976 fps for NTSC)

When bringing these to a Premiere Pro timeline (23.976fps), will Premiere Pro conform the audio to that timeline framerate automatically so that syncing is possible without any lag?

Also, is there anyway you could screw up the audio recording settings so that it would render you unable to sync in post? (I've never had this problem in the past, but I'm wondering if it is even possible)

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Mar 22, 2013 20:07 |  #2

There can be clock slip on long uninterrupted shots. Basically the timebase in the various devices, being that they all free-run and not sync'd to one another, has an error associated with it that accumulates over time.

It's highly unlikely you will ever notice it on a dSLR due to the ~11 minute clip length maximum in HD mode. With multiple video sources you have this as an issue (especially on live mixes!) and it WILL cause problems -- that's what genlock is all about -- providing one coherent timebase to all the capturing devices so there is no clock slip between them.

I've heard that the Zoom is a bit slippy on the clock in general but I own Tascams and haven't had a problem with that happening with my gear. I do record in uncompressed WAV format when I use them.


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Mar 23, 2013 10:54 |  #3

That's precisely the answer I was looking for! I guess I just have to wait and experiment when I'm working with multiple cameras or ones that shoot longer clips.


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Mar 26, 2013 15:22 |  #4

I shoot on a 7D in 24p and use a Zoom H1 and edit in Premiere Pro. It is just simply that, drop it in the time line. I use the 7D stock mic audio as my point source for lining up the H1 audio track. Simply drop the H1 into a separate audio track, take a minute to line things up so they are right. Unlink the original 7D audio and delete it, then link the H1 audio to the video track. Then it is off to editing. Pretty simple really. A few more steps if you want to tweak the audio sounds can be done as well, but it is really pretty easy to do.




  
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Mar 26, 2013 17:58 |  #5

Thanks for your input. Simple workflow. It seems that if we just use the mic on the camera as a point source, we don't really need to fuss with clapper boards or equivalent, at all. Assuming you don't have a large production where you need all those time codes and notes written down, etc.


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Mar 27, 2013 08:58 |  #6

dmonk, a clapper board can be helpful when the reference audio from the camera is too quiet.




  
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Mar 27, 2013 12:00 |  #7

A lot of times I will clap my hands together if I am staging say an interview or something like that. Makes a distinct reference point that can be handy. But still syncing the audio up is usually just a couple minute job. Clapper boards are great tools, but in my case it is one less thing to carry and my hands are free.;)




  
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