Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Critique Corner 
Thread started 26 Mar 2013 (Tuesday) 13:32
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

First Attempt at Flower Shot

 
Ceallach62
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 36
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Maple Valley, WA
     
Mar 26, 2013 13:32 |  #1

I have no appreciable experience/knowledge with regards to creating a good flower image. Last night I played with my new Kenko tubes and shot some cherry blossoms. I'm looking for whatever guidance/input I can get.

CAMERA: T3i, 18-55mm kit lens (set to 55mm), and a 25mm tube.
TECHNIQUE: ISO 800, f/32, 8/10 sec.
LOCATION: The location was my kitchen using only the available light through the window.
POST: A little PP was done in Lightroom, mostly adjusting sharpness, clarity, and a little increase in the exposure level.

QUESTIONS:
1. RE: Lighting. Considering the blossom was almost touching the lens, what is the best technique to improve lighting?
2. RE: Sharpness/clarity. I used a small aperture to get as much DOF as possible. How can I make it really crisp? If I drop to ISO 100, would the additional exposure time be an issue with a subject this magnified?
3. RE: Composition. I wanted to focus on the center of the flower, and less the pedals. Composition-wise, how did I do? Does this work?
4. RE:PP. Any input? What does it need. I played with B&W and like that potential.
5. Any advice?

Basically, this is my first serious attempt at flowers. How did I do?

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

Kelly (the masculine version, as nature intended)
Canon 6D | Canon 60D | Sigma 24-105 f/4 Art | Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens | Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 | Tamron SP DI 90mm macro f2.8 |
-->My FlickR (external link)<--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
Martin ­ Dixon
Slit-scan project master
Avatar
1,864 posts
Gallery: 59 photos
Likes: 274
Joined Sep 2009
Location: Ealing
     
Mar 26, 2013 15:01 |  #2

1/ I think you need stronger (slightly harder) light to bring out textures and contrast, but not too much.
2/ You need biggest DOF you can get with macro work unless you venture into focus stacking, which isn't really that difficult - you take more than one image moving the camera a little toward the subject - a slider can help a lot, then you can combine by hand in photoshop or use a program like CombineZP (free). Having said that f32 might be a bit much - try a variety of apertures.
3/ I think composition is pretty good.
4/ possibly local contrast and sharpness increased
5/ Keep going you're doing well even without specialist lenses. always carry an extension tube.

I do like the image, thought it looks slightly soft to me.


flickr (external link) Editing OK (external link) www.slitcam.com (free slit-scan utility) (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ceallach62
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 36
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Maple Valley, WA
     
Mar 26, 2013 15:32 |  #3

Thank you Martin. In regards to lighting, I was at a loss because the blossom was almost touching the lens. So I'm thinking maybe a diffused off-camera flash might work???

Stacking? I'll look into that. Thanks!

Martin Dixon wrote in post #15758182 (external link)
1/ I think you need stronger (slightly harder) light to bring out textures and contrast, but not too much.
2/ You need biggest DOF you can get with macro work unless you venture into focus stacking, which isn't really that difficult - you take more than one image moving the camera a little toward the subject - a slider can help a lot, then you can combine by hand in photoshop or use a program like CombineZP (free). Having said that f32 might be a bit much - try a variety of apertures.
3/ I think composition is pretty good.
4/ possibly local contrast and sharpness increased
5/ Keep going you're doing well even without specialist lenses. always carry an extension tube.

I do like the image, thought it looks slightly soft to me.


Kelly (the masculine version, as nature intended)
Canon 6D | Canon 60D | Sigma 24-105 f/4 Art | Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens | Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 | Tamron SP DI 90mm macro f2.8 |
-->My FlickR (external link)<--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Martin ­ Dixon
Slit-scan project master
Avatar
1,864 posts
Gallery: 59 photos
Likes: 274
Joined Sep 2009
Location: Ealing
     
Mar 26, 2013 17:57 |  #4

Yes flash will work - can be harsh - I have used aluminium foil to reflect the flash over all sides of the subject. I have found LED lights useful too as you can get them close without burning the subject (or yourself!)


flickr (external link) Editing OK (external link) www.slitcam.com (free slit-scan utility) (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ceallach62
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 36
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Maple Valley, WA
     
Mar 26, 2013 18:57 |  #5

@Martin: Thanks for the tip. Playing with light... this is fun!

@kjonnnn: I like your edit. Looks great! I'll play with it tonight on Lightroom and then get some more blossoms to shoot.


Kelly (the masculine version, as nature intended)
Canon 6D | Canon 60D | Sigma 24-105 f/4 Art | Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens | Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 | Tamron SP DI 90mm macro f2.8 |
-->My FlickR (external link)<--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ceallach62
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 36
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Maple Valley, WA
     
Mar 27, 2013 21:12 |  #6

Here is my latest edit...

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO

Kelly (the masculine version, as nature intended)
Canon 6D | Canon 60D | Sigma 24-105 f/4 Art | Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens | Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 | Tamron SP DI 90mm macro f2.8 |
-->My FlickR (external link)<--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sssc
Senior Member
Avatar
721 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Likes: 148
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Ohio.SW
     
Mar 27, 2013 22:40 |  #7

Wow that is really looking good to me :)


Keith-EOS R 7D MarkII EOS REBEL T2i 18-55,55-250.85 1/8. 100-400L. 10-22 f/3.5-4.5. 24-105mm f/4L IS,70-200 II,RF 24-105

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Ceallach62
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
317 posts
Likes: 36
Joined Jan 2013
Location: Maple Valley, WA
     
Mar 27, 2013 23:40 |  #8

sssc wrote in post #15763858 (external link)
Wow that is really looking good to me :)

Thank you for the kind words, Keith


Kelly (the masculine version, as nature intended)
Canon 6D | Canon 60D | Sigma 24-105 f/4 Art | Canon EF 100-400mm f/4.5-5.6L IS II USM Lens | Tokina 16-28mm f/2.8 | Tamron SP DI 90mm macro f2.8 |
-->My FlickR (external link)<--

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
tmoore323
Goldmember
Avatar
1,945 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Oct 2010
     
Mar 28, 2013 00:20 |  #9

seems soft to me...

Something similar that I did:

IMAGE: http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/7004666029_4171a92984_b.jpg
IMAGE LINK: http://www.flickr.com …/47401703@N06/7​004666029/  (external link)
CherryBlossom-1 (external link) by tmoore323 (external link), on Flickr



  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Kaotic ­ Lazagna
Senior Member
339 posts
Joined Feb 2012
     
Mar 28, 2013 00:27 |  #10

I like the "latest edit."

I wouldn't use such a high f-stop, as someone else said. As for lighting, you can make your own ring light if you have some camping lights laying around. I made one, and it helps out a little (although, if your subject has a glossy surface, the "ring" will definitely be seen.

*sorry for image quality, used my phone*

IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 404 | MIME changed to 'text/html' | Byte size: ZERO


IMAGE NOT FOUND
IMAGE IS A REDIRECT OR MISSING!
HTTP response: 403 | MIME changed to 'text/plain'

Canon T2i / 18-55mm kit lens / Sigma 30mm f1.4 / Canon 85mm f1.8 / Canon 100mm f2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sssc
Senior Member
Avatar
721 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Likes: 148
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Ohio.SW
     
Mar 28, 2013 00:28 |  #11

The softness works with the colors from what i see.


Keith-EOS R 7D MarkII EOS REBEL T2i 18-55,55-250.85 1/8. 100-400L. 10-22 f/3.5-4.5. 24-105mm f/4L IS,70-200 II,RF 24-105

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sssc
Senior Member
Avatar
721 posts
Gallery: 32 photos
Likes: 148
Joined Dec 2010
Location: Ohio.SW
     
Mar 28, 2013 00:32 |  #12

Nice shot Tmoore. Kaotic that is pretty cool what you came up with there:)


Keith-EOS R 7D MarkII EOS REBEL T2i 18-55,55-250.85 1/8. 100-400L. 10-22 f/3.5-4.5. 24-105mm f/4L IS,70-200 II,RF 24-105

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Kaotic ­ Lazagna
Senior Member
339 posts
Joined Feb 2012
     
Mar 28, 2013 00:39 |  #13

sssc wrote in post #15764117 (external link)
Nice shot Tmoore. Kaotic that is pretty cool what you came up with there:)

Thanks :D

Can't figure out a way to diffuse the LEDs so that there won't be "dots" on glossy surfaces.


Canon T2i / 18-55mm kit lens / Sigma 30mm f1.4 / Canon 85mm f1.8 / Canon 100mm f2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Chandler.
Goldmember
Avatar
2,784 posts
Likes: 4
Joined Dec 2006
Location: Issaquah
     
Mar 29, 2013 06:29 |  #14

Hit it with an S-curve

IMAGE: http://i.imgur.com/dKrMJb3.jpg

I realize some might think this is overdone, but I like my images crispy.

Sharpness/clarity: you don't need to use ISO 100. At f/32 on an APS-C sensor, you begin to deal with diffraction, which hurts image quality. f/16 (arguably f/11 would probably treat you better, purely speaking. Practically speaking, however, diffraction isn't a huge deal with this image at this size. However, opening up the lens a couple stops would improve image sharpness more than dropping down to ISO 100. The increased exposure time wouldn't matter as long as you have a tripod, use a remote release/timer and there is zero wind. Indoors, you'll be fine with this subject.

Composition: you did fine, the bottom left edge bugs me, so I cropped it out.

Lighting: Flash. See the Macro board.

BTW, Maple Valley isn't a bad place.

There are no rules for good photographs, there are only good photographs. ~ Ansel Adams

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

1,525 views & 0 likes for this thread
First Attempt at Flower Shot
FORUMS Photography Talk by Genre Critique Corner 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is JDG-photo
1236 guests, 261 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.