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shinyknights
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Apr 01, 2013 18:08 |  #1

Why do people say that it isn't the gear that makes the photos look stunning?

It's gear that gives you bokeh.
It's gear that gives you bounce from your flash lite.
It's gear that gives you soft boxes for soft shadows.
It's gear that allows you to go ISO 3200.
It's gear that allows you to remove oblique reflections using polarizing filters.

Gears are important in photography!!
Especially software for post-processing.

Just my 2 cents ;)
One just needs to learn how to hold the camera steady and properly expose the shots.
Angles and compositions are really just creativity added to the mix.




  
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Apr 01, 2013 18:16 |  #2

Creativity > Skill > Gear


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Apr 01, 2013 18:16 |  #3

My answer (external link).

Also, I'm out, as I don't need to go over all of this again (give me another month), but PM's always welcome.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:19 |  #4

shinyknights wrote in post #15780270 (external link)
Why do people say that it isn't the gear that makes the photos look stunning?

It's gear that gives you bokeh.
It's gear that gives you bounce from your flash lite.
It's gear that gives you soft boxes for soft shadows.
It's gear that allows you to go ISO 3200.
It's gear that allows you to remove oblique reflections using polarizing filters.

Gears are important in photography!!
Especially software for post-processing.

Just my 2 cents ;)
One just needs to learn how to hold the camera steady and properly expose the shots.
Angles and compositions are really just creativity added to the mix.

If it's the gears, then everyone who own a DSLR should be able to shoot a paid gig, wedding, high fashion shoot, etc...




  
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Apr 01, 2013 18:20 |  #5

I read your answer.

a great photographer can take great shots with lesser gear, but a bad photographer will never take great photos even if equipped with the best gear.

What happens when you give a great photographer a canon xti and a 18-55mm vs a photographer enthusiast with canon 5d iii and a 85mm L 1.2 II?




  
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Apr 01, 2013 18:22 |  #6

shinyknights wrote in post #15780326 (external link)
I read your answer.

What happens when you give a great photographer a canon xti and a 18-55mm vs a photographer enthusiast with canon 5d iii and a 85mm L 1.2 II?

You'll get the best image possible out of the former, and something well below optimal out of the latter.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:22 |  #7

drive_75 wrote in post #15780322 (external link)
If it's the gears, then everyone who own a DSLR should be able to shoot a paid gig, wedding, high fashion shoot, etc...

I'm just saying that any one who knows how to work a camera (use manual settings) should be able to take as great photos as a great photographer, right? Taking post-processing out of the mix because that is what REALLY makes photography look so great and stunning.




  
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Apr 01, 2013 18:25 |  #8

shinyknights wrote in post #15780326 (external link)
What happens when you give a great photographer a canon xti and a 18-55mm vs a photographer enthusiast with canon 5d iii and a 85mm L 1.2 II?

The better photographer will find the better light, angle, composition, proper DoF, and overall "feel"... it will be a more memorable photograph.

The other might be sharper. Big deal.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:25 |  #9

http://www.flickr.com …in/set-72157629390099680/ (external link)

Was taken with a 400D and EF-S18-55mm f/3.5-5.6 by a GREAT photographer. 1600+ favorites on flickr and all kinds of awards.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:26 |  #10

LV Moose wrote in post #15780341 (external link)
The better photographer will find the better light, angle, composition, proper DoF... it will be a more memorable photograph.

The other might be sharper. Big deal.

If you gave the same photographer 2 sets of gear, would he be able to produce better pictures with the better set of gear?




  
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Apr 01, 2013 18:27 |  #11

The way I see it, having the best gear for the situation removes a part of the equation to the point where the final photo is entirely determined by the photographer's skill and knowledge. Having the right equipment makes the photographers job that much easier, and all he has to do is worry about getting the shot, not whether or not the gear will perform to his requirements.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:27 |  #12

shinyknights wrote in post #15780345 (external link)
If you gave the same photographer 2 sets of gear, would he be able to produce better pictures with the better set of gear?

Yes.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:28 |  #13

LV Moose wrote in post #15780351 (external link)
Yes.

Then gear does matter! :D




  
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Apr 01, 2013 18:31 |  #14

shinyknights wrote in post #15780357 (external link)
Then gear does matter! :D

It matters, but it's not going to turn a novice into a great photographer. It's not an equalizer.


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Apr 01, 2013 18:31 |  #15

pixel_junkie wrote in post #15780303 (external link)
Creativity > Skill > Gear

Bingo. Creativity is the number one thing that makes a good photographer. Skills and gear help but you can have all the technical skills and the best gear money can buy and if you're not somewhat creative with your shots they will still suck to look at end of story. Not saying having decent gear doesn't help but it's like anything someone with years of experience and skill with older gear will be better at a given thing that someone with the newest gear but fewer skills and far less experience or creativity.


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