Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
Thread started 01 Apr 2013 (Monday) 16:43
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Portrait shooting, is the 5DM3 worth it?

 
KeyserSoze1
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
525 posts
Likes: 1
Joined Oct 2010
     
Apr 01, 2013 19:27 |  #16

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #15780323 (external link)
Is your keeper rate particularly low? Due to AF trouble?

I've not run into that in the situations you describe in your first post.
But the issue mentioned later with the 1.2L,. I've never shot with that combination, so maybe for this application you will see an improvement.

The AF difference is huge, I just didn't think it was a big issue for studio work.

Staszek wrote in post #15780477 (external link)
As Jake said, the AF difference is huge. I don't think it'd justify the price difference for studio and location portraits though. On the other hand, if you shoot action or quick paced events, the 5D3 is well worth the price jump over the 5D2.

Thank you Jake ans Staszek. I think I'm convinced to just keep the 5D2 for the moment or maybe just go for a 6D which I read has improved AF over the 5D2.


kouasupra wrote in post #15780438 (external link)
Everybody is different. $1500 extra vs $130 for rental sounds reasonable. There isn't a black and white area. It's more of a gray area for liking and disliking about this camera. For studio the 9 point system is more then enough, it's the fast candid and action shots that requires a more accurate AF system.

I know but If I were to do this, I'd rather just buy the camera and return it if I think the camera doesn't fit my needs. I'll pay $25.00 tops for return shipping.


Canon 5DM III, 35 1.4 II 50 1.2L
Canon 6D/// RX1

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
swldstn
Senior Member
Avatar
977 posts
Likes: 3
Joined May 2007
Location: Maine
     
Apr 01, 2013 19:55 |  #17

kouasupra wrote in post #15780116 (external link)
For some odd reason the 5D3 does a better job with focus issue on lens like the 85L and 50L. Some reviews I found have complain about the 85L and 50L not focusing too well on the 5D2 when using the outer focus.

Had exactly the same experience. The 5D3 has made my 50L usable and my 85L even faster. When I had my 5D2 I was very unhappy with my 50L and had to put the subject in the middle when ever I used my 85L. No longer have to suffer these usage issues.


Steve Waldstein
---------------
Love to Shoot - a Digital SLR (and now a Mirroless ILC) are my weapons of choice
Gear List

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
lovemyram4x4
Goldmember
Avatar
2,198 posts
Gallery: 97 photos
Best ofs: 3
Likes: 57
Joined Mar 2013
Location: Temecula
     
Apr 01, 2013 19:55 |  #18

It was worth it for me to upgrade my 5DII to the 5DIII, but I tend to shoot a lot of things that AF is more important. Plus I was ready to retire my 40D's UW duties with my FF and with cost of a new UW housing it will be camera I'm going to be keeping for several years. The upgrade ended up costing me $1,000 since the used prices were a bit higher and I got a refurb on sale, technically less since I kept the 24-105 kit lens that came with the 5DII.

If my shooting was more like yours I don't think I'd feel it would be worth it, at least for the portrait side.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kouasupra
Goldmember
2,750 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 469
Joined May 2008
Location: Fresno/Clovis, CA
     
Apr 01, 2013 20:04 |  #19

swldstn wrote in post #15780691 (external link)
Had exactly the same experience. The 5D3 has made my 50L usable and my 85L even faster. When I had my 5D2 I was very unhappy with my 50L and had to put the subject in the middle when ever I used my 85L. No longer have to suffer these usage issues.

+1

Nice. :)




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Mornnb
Goldmember
1,646 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 23
Joined Aug 2012
Location: Sydney
     
Apr 02, 2013 05:39 |  #20

KeyserSoze1 wrote in post #15780573 (external link)
Thank you Jake ans Staszek. I think I'm convinced to just keep the 5D2 for the moment or maybe just go for a 6D which I read has improved AF over the 5D2.

The 6D also has better high ISO noise than the 5D2 and even the 5D3. I don't think there's a reason to go for the 5D3 if all you are shooting is portraits.


Canon 5D Mark III - Leica M240
EF 16-35mm F/4 IS L - EF 14mm f/2.8 L II - - EF 17mm TS-E L - EF 24-70mm f/2.8 L II - EF 70-200mm IS II f/2.8 L - Sigma 35mm f/1.4 Art - Sigma 85mm f/1.4 EX
Voigtlander 15mm III - 28mm Elmarit-M ASPH - 35mm f/1.4 Summilux-M FLE - 50mm f/1.4 Summilux-M ASPH
500px (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DocFrankenstein
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
12,324 posts
Likes: 7
Joined Apr 2004
Location: where the buffalo roam
     
Apr 02, 2013 05:43 |  #21

I'm always curious to see the portfolio before forming an opinion.


National Sarcasm Society. Like we need your support.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cdang
Senior Member
263 posts
Likes: 6
Joined Dec 2011
     
Apr 02, 2013 07:12 |  #22

I think it's worth it if you're using fast primes. Some of my lens came alive with the 5D3.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
James ­ P
Goldmember
Avatar
1,900 posts
Gallery: 5 photos
Likes: 153
Joined Aug 2008
Location: Chatham, Ontario, Canada
     
Apr 02, 2013 07:18 |  #23

As someone who has actually had both the 5DII and now the 5DIII, I can see no difference in the quality of portraits taken with either one. If you shoot moving objects, that's a totally different story. For me, I love my 5DIII and would never go back to the MkII.


1Dx - 5DIII - 40D - Canon 24-70LII, 100L macro, 135L, 16-35L, 70-200 f4 and 100-400L lenses

- "Very good" is the enemy of "great." Sometimes we confuse the two.

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bobbyz
Cream of the Crop
19,408 posts
Likes: 1536
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
     
Apr 02, 2013 08:25 |  #24

5dmk3 AF makes using fast lenses much much easier. With 5dmk2 most folks using center AF points even when using f1.4 glass. So whether AF is worth or not is for you to decide.

For example when shooting kid portraits I can use AI servo with 35L at f1.4 and nail focus easily using outer AF points. On 5dmk2 it will be worthless endeavor IMHO.


5dmk3, 35L, 85L II, 300mm f2.8 IS I, 400mm f5.6
Fuji XT-1, 14mm f2.8, 23mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4, 56mm f1.2, 90mm f2, 50-140mm f2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
umphotography
grabbing their Johnson
Avatar
10,619 posts
Gallery: 15 photos
Likes: 2391
Joined Oct 2007
Location: Gig Harbor, Washington
     
Apr 02, 2013 10:12 |  #25

bobbyz wrote in post #15782171 (external link)
5dmk3 AF makes using fast lenses much much easier. With 5dmk2 most folks using center AF points even when using f1.4 glass. So whether AF is worth or not is for you to decide.

For example when shooting kid portraits I can use AI servo with 35L at f1.4 and nail focus easily using outer AF points. On 5dmk2 it will be worthless endeavor IMHO.

^^^^^^^^^^^

This

Focus recompose has a very high failure rate when you shooting at F/1.2-2.0 with the 5D2. ANYTIME you move the camera around when this shallow your going to get misses and not 100% sharp at 100%. You can get away with it on a small print.. Go big and you COULD be screwed. With the 5D3, its a mute point. You put the focus point on it,, and its gonna hit. So for that alone, its worth every penny as far as im concerned. And i shoot shallow in studio. Helps out a bunch in studio as well.

When you buy a 5D3, your paying for a camera with a 1D AF system... 5D2 does not come close here.

Think of a 5D3 and a 1DsMKIII in a 5D body and you have your answers.......5D3 is worth every bloody penny you spend considering the 1DsMKIII was at $7000.00

I have a 5D2 and hate using it now. Once you know what a great AF system can do for your photography you wont want to go back to Making do.

So,, for shooting portraits is a 5D3 worth it.......depends on if your invested in Fast primes and shoot shallow would be my answer......Worth it....dam right it is.....can you get by w/o a 5D3 if you have a 5D2......Yup


Mike
www.umphotography.com (external link)
GEAR LIST
Facebook (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
kalieaire
Member
87 posts
Joined Nov 2004
Location: SF Bay Area, CA
     
Apr 05, 2013 12:16 |  #26

I would say no, if you're not action oriented (which it doesn't sound like it with portraits and similar posed shots) you should be manually focusing everything.

use live view to be 100% certain you -own- that critical focus.

With that said, I have a 5D mark III cuz i'm a baller.


blog.styledliving.com (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
jocau
Goldmember
Avatar
1,838 posts
Gallery: 11 photos
Likes: 338
Joined Mar 2012
Location: Belgium
     
Apr 05, 2013 12:22 |  #27

I would say "yes" if you want to follow the rule of thirds with fast primes at close or minimum focus distance without using liveview.


550D | EF-S 18-55mm F/3.5-5.6 IS | EF 50mm F/1.8 II | EF 70-200mm F/4L IS | Speedlite 580EX II | LumoPro LP180 | Gitzo GT3541XLS | Arca-Swiss Monoball Z1 SP | ONA Bowery (black, non-leather) (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
panicatnabisco
Senior Member
Avatar
968 posts
Gallery: 33 photos
Likes: 306
Joined Apr 2012
Location: san francisco, CA
     
Apr 05, 2013 12:34 |  #28

After having shot both:

-I like the 5D2's dynamic range better
-I like the 5D3's ISO range better

so in conclusion; get both ;)

*edit, keep your 5d2 and spend the rest on lenses


Canon 1DX | 6D | 16-35/2.8II | 24-70/2.8II | 50/1.8 | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 85/1.4 | 100/2.8 IS macro | 200mm f/2 | 400/2.8 IS II | 2xIII
Leica M8.2 | Noctilux 50 f/1 | Elmarit 90/2.8
afimages.net (external link) | Facebook (external link) | flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
bobbyz
Cream of the Crop
19,408 posts
Likes: 1536
Joined Nov 2007
Location: Bay Area, CA
     
Apr 05, 2013 13:08 |  #29

panicatnabisco wrote in post #15793993 (external link)
After having shot both:

-I like the 5D2's dynamic range better
-I like the 5D3's ISO range better

so in conclusion; get both ;)

*edit, keep your 5d2 and spend the rest on lenses

I thought those two things were the least difference between the two bodies. I had 5dc, 5dmk2 and 5dmk3.


5dmk3, 35L, 85L II, 300mm f2.8 IS I, 400mm f5.6
Fuji XT-1, 14mm f2.8, 23mm f1.4, 35mm f1.4, 56mm f1.2, 90mm f2, 50-140mm f2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
panicatnabisco
Senior Member
Avatar
968 posts
Gallery: 33 photos
Likes: 306
Joined Apr 2012
Location: san francisco, CA
     
Apr 05, 2013 14:47 |  #30

I would've thought so too, but I borrowed a 5D2 for a backup camera when I was shooting drift and time attack and after shooting them both side by side, even the smallest difference stand out.

5D2 colors look better at high ISO ;) Who knows, not every camera acts the exact same way. What was funny was the 5D2 I borrowed was "broken" an about to be sent to CPS (funny shutter noise, no viewfinder display)


Canon 1DX | 6D | 16-35/2.8II | 24-70/2.8II | 50/1.8 | 70-200/2.8 IS II | 85/1.4 | 100/2.8 IS macro | 200mm f/2 | 400/2.8 IS II | 2xIII
Leica M8.2 | Noctilux 50 f/1 | Elmarit 90/2.8
afimages.net (external link) | Facebook (external link) | flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

3,047 views & 0 likes for this thread
Portrait shooting, is the 5DM3 worth it?
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EOS Digital Cameras 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is aaalex7
1019 guests, 308 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.