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Canon EOS M- How do you Zoom?

 
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Apr 03, 2013 00:22 as a reply to  @ post 15785529 |  #16

If you buy the efm-to-ef adapter you can put any ef or ef-s lens on it. The downside is that the autofocus performance is not (as) good, but it depends on which lens specifically you add.

If your budget is on the lower-end, you can consider getting the adapter + the ef-s 55-250mm (around $250). You can push for something better but they quickly hit the $1k+ mark.

Alternatively you can hope/pray canon release a native (ef-m) telezoom in the future.


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Apr 03, 2013 01:08 |  #17

MrCroatia wrote in post #15785507 (external link)
With the kit I received a 18-55mm lens. It doesn't really Zoom in too far.
What size you you recommend?

If you can, get an EF to EOS-M adapter and the EF 70-300 IS lens so you can have long zoom (~110-480mm) with AF and IS, and I've noticed AF is pretty fast too.
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Apr 03, 2013 19:03 |  #18

CyberDyneSystems wrote in post #15785529 (external link)
Near as I can tell, unfortunately, Canon has yet to release a long or even medium telephoto zoom lens for this camera. It seems to be the most Niche interchangeable lens camera in existence.

With the ef adapter you can put any ef lens, so it actually has a much larger selection than most.


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Apr 03, 2013 20:25 |  #19

mwsilver wrote in post #15785120 (external link)
Digital zoom, which is a form of cropping is strictly a point and shoot feature. Good cameras do not include it. Digital zooms do not give you anywhere near the same quality as a longer lens will. There are currently only a few lenses that are compatible with the EOS-m. You can purchase the Canon EF-M Lens Adapter Kit for Canon EF / EF-S Lenses which sells for $170, and than attach just about any current Canon lens you want. However the adapter and lens combination (depending on which lens you get) could easily cost as much, or more the the camera itself, and adding a big lens and the lens adapter to your camera body will results in a combination that will be neither light or compact. Its a conundrum.

EDIT: If you wanted big zoom in a smaller camera, and were less worried about DSLR quality images, you might have considered something the Nikon COOLPIX P510 Digital Camera instead. it has an equivalent (not actual) zoom range of 24-1000mm. It has an inexpensive lens built in lens and a very small sensor, but you'll be able to see a raisin sitting on a marshmallow from a couple of hundred feet away, Additionally, the new Canon EOS Rebel SL1 was just announced. It is a real Canon dslr, just much smaller. Its compatible with all canon digital lenses except those for the EOS-M.

I would love it if 'good' cameras had a crop feature. Cropping is one of my most creative edits.




  
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Apr 04, 2013 02:07 |  #20

mrkgoo wrote in post #15788406 (external link)
I would love it if 'good' cameras had a crop feature. Cropping is one of my most creative edits.

I understand what you're saying, but of course, digital zoom is not really a crop tool, just a way of simulating an optical zoom in point and shoots. But beyond that, I avoid most in-camera PP, preferring to do it on a large screen with a more flexible, extensive, and effective tool set like Lightroom, DPP or Elements 11.


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Apr 04, 2013 04:15 |  #21

MrCroatia wrote in post #15785507 (external link)
With the kit I received a 18-55mm lens. It doesn't really Zoom in too far.
What size you you recommend?

The answer to that only you can answer! I like long lenses, they suit the way I look at the world. Others seem to like extreme wide angle lenses that leave me cold. We are all different.


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Apr 04, 2013 04:17 |  #22

mrkgoo wrote in post #15788406 (external link)
I would love it if 'good' cameras had a crop feature. Cropping is one of my most creative edits.

That's the very last thing on earth I'd want on my 5D2, thanks very much.


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Apr 04, 2013 10:12 |  #23

mrkgoo wrote in post #15788406 (external link)
I would love it if 'good' cameras had a crop feature. Cropping is one of my most creative edits.

i would love that on the M.


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Apr 04, 2013 11:07 |  #24

mrkgoo wrote in post #15788406 (external link)
I would love it if 'good' cameras had a crop feature. Cropping is one of my most creative edits.

Yes, I agree that cropping is often an important part of the final edit. But, I really cannot see any reason to have it in camera, where there is often still some potential movement of camera or subject as the shot is taken. If you crop to your final composition in camera, and the camera / subject moves a little, your final composition has changed and the placement of the image components is no longer ideal.

Doing the cropping later, in post, takes hardly any time, but allows you to position the image edges exactly where you want them for best effect. I would only ever crop on a computer, and the same goes for most editing tasks (such as sharpening etc.). They are best done in post, with full control over the result, rather than let the camera produce an image with such tasks finalised and unreversible.




  
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Apr 04, 2013 12:18 |  #25

I only crop in post processing. If the in-camera option was there, I probably wouldn't use it. I have far more control in post. A few reasons come to mind...

- I can do fine adjustments in front of a large monitor under ideal lighting conditions instead of using a 3 inch LCD out in the sun.

- If I decide I don't like how the crop came out, I can discard it and go back to the original image do it again.

- On occasion, I've saved different crops obtained from the same image, changing the composition by putting the subject in different corners of the scene.

- I can crop precisely to different aspect ratios.. (3:2) 4:3) (5:7) etc.. That would be tough to do in-camera.




  
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Apr 04, 2013 13:01 |  #26

JimiJam wrote in post #15785575 (external link)
If you buy the efm-to-ef adapter you can put any ef or ef-s lens on it. The downside is that the autofocus performance is not (as) good, but it depends on which lens specifically you add.

If your budget is on the lower-end, you can consider getting the adapter + the ef-s 55-250mm (around $250). You can push for something better but they quickly hit the $1k+ mark.

Alternatively you can hope/pray canon release a native (ef-m) telezoom in the future.

The adapter plus the EF-S 55-250mm IS lens will prolly give you the 'most bang for the buck' in a telezoom.


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Apr 04, 2013 13:11 |  #27

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Apr 04, 2013 13:42 |  #28

Jim_T wrote in post #15790350 (external link)
I only crop in post processing. If the in-camera option was there, I probably wouldn't use it. I have far more control in post. A few reasons come to mind...

- I can do fine adjustments in front of a large monitor under ideal lighting conditions instead of using a 3 inch LCD out in the sun.

- If I decide I don't like how the crop came out, I can discard it and go back to the original image do it again.

- On occasion, I've saved different crops obtained from the same image, changing the composition by putting the subject in different corners of the scene.

- I can crop precisely to different aspect ratios.. (3:2) 4:3) (5:7) etc.. That would be tough to do in-camera.

i got very accustomed to using this feature on my S90… i edit photos for a living so it's a welcome reprieve to not have to download to my pc and do the work in photoshop.


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Apr 04, 2013 14:05 |  #29

Yogi Bear wrote in post #15790485 (external link)
The adapter plus the EF-S 55-250mm IS lens will prolly give you the 'most bang for the buck' in a telezoom.

I agree. but it will cost the OP close to another $500 for both and will make the once very compact and portable EOS-M, neither compact nor as portable, and will necessitate carrying and changing lenses to get a wide angle. For all the work, weight, size, cost and effort to do that, any advantage of the EOS-M body over a small dslr is completely lost. When you add to that its lack of a view finder and sluggish auto focus I'm not sure why anyone would buy it if they were not content with the 22mm, 40mm, and 18-55mm lenses already designed for it. Unfortunately it appears the OP did not fully realize the capabilities and limitations of the camera he was buying and will now will have to compromise with regard to either size and weight, or focal range.


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Apr 04, 2013 16:50 |  #30

Jethro790 wrote in post #15784816 (external link)
Welcome to the world of real cameras! Even a 5000 dollar setup setup like a 5d with a 70-200 you have to zoom manually! Or you can spend $28,000 on a medium format RED body that doesn't even auto-focus! I know it sounds backwards, but there it is!

since when is the RED a medium format camera?




  
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