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Mar 31, 2013 14:07 |  #136

Hey guys,

I am new to this fuji line up but very interested. Was looking around and i think i've limited it down to either fuji x-pro1 or fuji x100 or fujix100s. I know a bit about each but if someone could shed some more light on this that would be appreciated. I know that the fuji x pro needs to be purchased separately and i think i want to get the 35mm 1.4 lens for that. If someone has owned any of the above, your opinion is also valuable to me. Thanks.


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Mar 31, 2013 16:22 |  #137

123Focus wrote in post #15775787 (external link)
Hey guys,

I am new to this fuji line up but very interested. Was looking around and i think i've limited it down to either fuji x-pro1 or fuji x100 or fujix100s. I know a bit about each but if someone could shed some more light on this that would be appreciated. I know that the fuji x pro needs to be purchased separately and i think i want to get the 35mm 1.4 lens for that. If someone has owned any of the above, your opinion is also valuable to me. Thanks.

What do you shoot? Why are you considering either of these cameras?

You mention you want the 35mm 1.4 which on the XP1 (35mm x 1.5) will give you 52.5mm focal length. Right there that would eliminate the X100/S since you'll only have a 35mm (23mm x 1.5) on those cameras. If all you need is a 35mm focal length, I'd go for the X100/S. For the X100/S, there is also a wide angle converter which will give you a 28mm focal length.

As to which X100 to get. The X100 with serial #'s starting with 11,12, and 13 might develop SAB. So if buying used, that's something to take into consideration. Otherwise, the original X100 is a great value on the used market IMO.

In a nutshell, If you want faster AF, better manual control, and slightly higher quality IQ, the X100S IMO is the version to get. Note: X100S with firmware 1.00 has faster AF than firmware 1.01. It's also been reported that the AF on the X100S v1.01 is not as fast as the X100 (I forget which FW version the X100 had in the comparison). Though, it sounds like this should be addressed by Fuji shortly.


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Mar 31, 2013 17:53 |  #138

For the record, SAB = sticky aperture blades.


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Mar 31, 2013 18:01 |  #139

Thanks for the helpful response. I looked up SAB and that seems to be a common problem for the x100

Is the x-pro the only camera with interchangeable lenses? From what i've read the x-100 and x100s come with the kit lens of 23mm f2 is that right?

I like street photography and also i welcome the additional f stop on the 35mm and that's why im leaning more towards the x pro1. Are the lenses interchangeable for the x100 and x100s?

in addition, accessories such as sticky thumb (don't even know what that is?), grip, lens hood, RRS plate, are those necessary or recommended? i might have missed a few so feel free to fill me in.


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Mar 31, 2013 18:04 |  #140

What's a good price for x-pro1, x100, 35mm f1.4, and 18mm f2, 23mm f2(if i remember correctly)?


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Mar 31, 2013 18:18 |  #141

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There's what appears to be a "to good to be true" deal for an open box X100S on Ebay right now. BIN $1320
http://cgi.ebay.com …iewItem&item=26​1193794608 (external link)

--- Supposedly comes with lens shade, Think Tank Urban Disguise camera bag, cable release, extra battery, extra charger, 3 year Mack warranty, external flash(?), RRS L Bracket(?).

Odd description. But check out where it says "bundled Items."

User has 913 100% positive feedbacks

I messaged the seller to verify that all these items are actually included, and which brand battery, which model TT bag, etc. But I have not heard back yet. I asked the seller only about 20 minutes ago.

I probably would've canceled my preorder had I seen that.


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Mar 31, 2013 23:04 |  #142

for the X100s users, anyone else macro mode at f/2.0 looks really soft, almost dreamy looking like?
when shooting in normal mode at f/2.0, it looks fine and sharp, but when in macro (4-10 inches away) it looks bad

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Apr 01, 2013 01:16 |  #143

123Focus wrote in post #15776436 (external link)
Is the x-pro the only camera with interchangeable lenses?

The XE1 (external link)is also an interchangeable lens camera.
http://www.dpreview.co​m/reviews/fujifilm-x-e1 (external link)

From what i've read the x-100 and x100s come with the kit lens of 23mm f2 is that right? ... Are the lenses interchangeable for the x100 and x100s?

The lens is built into the camera. It's not interchangeable. Though there is an additional wide angle adapter that can screw on to the front of the lens that will give you a 28mm focal length (35mm equivalent).


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Apr 01, 2013 19:32 |  #144

Ahh ok. i will pm you later rjx. Thanks


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Apr 02, 2013 23:12 |  #145

taemo wrote in post #15777422 (external link)
for the X100s users, anyone else macro mode at f/2.0 looks really soft, almost dreamy looking like?
when shooting in normal mode at f/2.0, it looks fine and sharp, but when in macro (4-10 inches away) it looks bad

Hey Taemo
i'm noticing the same thing after putting macro mode to the test after seeing your post. Its very soft and 'dreamy' and there seems to be this artificial looking tilt shift effect with a blurred bar of sorts in the top third of the photo. I tried it stopped down too and i couldn't get a sharp photo. I don't shoot any macro and don't plan to in the future but it's certainly below what i would have expected.


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Apr 05, 2013 11:25 |  #146

tohara wrote in post #15785428 (external link)
Hey Taemo
i'm noticing the same thing after putting macro mode to the test after seeing your post. Its very soft and 'dreamy' and there seems to be this artificial looking tilt shift effect with a blurred bar of sorts in the top third of the photo. I tried it stopped down too and i couldn't get a sharp photo. I don't shoot any macro and don't plan to in the future but it's certainly below what i would have expected.

Physics. Fuji has long acknowledged that macro mode on the X100 - and now X100s - is sharpest at f4 or greater. Expecting a lens of this size to be sharp at f/2 in macro mode is asking a lot. A whole lot. There is a reason that the very best macro lenses on the market are f/2.8 or greater. And they are all at least twice the size as the X100s lens - more like 3 times the size. To regard this issue as a fault is absurd, IMO.


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Apr 05, 2013 13:15 |  #147

Wouldn't the depth of field at F2 macro be so small that it'd not be useful?




  
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Apr 05, 2013 13:16 |  #148

tohara wrote in post #15785428 (external link)
Hey Taemo
i'm noticing the same thing after putting macro mode to the test after seeing your post. Its very soft and 'dreamy' and there seems to be this artificial looking tilt shift effect with a blurred bar of sorts in the top third of the photo. I tried it stopped down too and i couldn't get a sharp photo. I don't shoot any macro and don't plan to in the future but it's certainly below what i would have expected.

yeap, looks like its normal and fuji site states that they best recommend f4 and smaller when in macro mode.

stax wrote in post #15793763 (external link)
Physics. Fuji has long acknowledged that macro mode on the X100 - and now X100s - is sharpest at f4 or greater. Expecting a lens of this size to be sharp at f/2 in macro mode is asking a lot. A whole lot. There is a reason that the very best macro lenses on the market are f/2.8 or greater. And they are all at least twice the size as the X100s lens - more like 3 times the size. To regard this issue as a fault is absurd, IMO.

what's happening with the X100s though is it produces a more dreamy like image, which wasn't the case on the old X100 at f2


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Apr 05, 2013 17:53 |  #149

stax wrote in post #15793763 (external link)
Physics. Fuji has long acknowledged that macro mode on the X100 - and now X100s - is sharpest at f4 or greater. Expecting a lens of this size to be sharp at f/2 in macro mode is asking a lot. A whole lot. There is a reason that the very best macro lenses on the market are f/2.8 or greater. And they are all at least twice the size as the X100s lens - more like 3 times the size. To regard this issue as a fault is absurd, IMO.

i never expected it to be sharp at f/2, hence why i stopped it down (as mentioned in my initial post) to f8 and the results were still lacklustre


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Apr 05, 2013 21:10 |  #150

Well, I just got an x100 from Amazon today...in LOVE! I haven't touched my 5D2 in months as I've been shooting film, but the x100 has renewed my interest in digital, again. I am going to return this x100 and pick up an x100s when I can find one available!

Not that I was expecting nor did anyone claim this, but the build quality is nothing like a Leica. Well, I guess subconsciously I do expect it b/c every time I pick it up I am always surprised at how cheap it feels (relatively speaking, of course). Either way, it's a blast to use. Can't wait to get my hands on an x100s!


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