Approve the Cookies
This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and our Privacy Policy.
OK
Index  •   • New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Guest
New posts  •   • RTAT  •   • 'Best of'  •   • Gallery  •   • Gear  •   • Reviews
Register to forums    Log in

 
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
Thread started 06 Apr 2013 (Saturday) 22:50
Search threadPrev/next
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

Trying to love my 24-70mm but...

 
daystar
THREAD ­ STARTER
Senior Member
Avatar
589 posts
Likes: 519
Joined Aug 2008
Location: East Coast, US
     
Apr 07, 2013 10:30 as a reply to  @ post 15799823 |  #16

I have not done a focus test yet. What is a standard procedure for that? Thank you.


Nikon D750 | Nikon D7100 | 85mm 1.8G | 50mm 1.8G | 35mm 1.8G | Tamron 70-200 2.8

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,164 posts
Gallery: 45 photos
Likes: 2493
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
Apr 07, 2013 13:24 |  #17

post some pics


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mystik610
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,014 posts
Gallery: 36 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 9295
Joined Jan 2012
Location: Houston, TX
     
Apr 07, 2013 13:50 |  #18

I was never fully happy with the sharpness of the 24-70 MK I either. Always felt like a compromise every time I used it. Not that its not a great lens, but sharpness is not its forte. Of course sharpness isn't the only criteria to evaluate a lens upon, but from a comparative standpoint, there are a lot of sharper lenses out there.


focalpointsphoto.com (external link) - flickr (external link) - Instagram (external link)
α7ʀII - RX1ʀII - α7ʀIII
Zeiss Loxia 21 - Canon 24-70 2.8LII - Sony/Zeiss 35 f1.4 ZA - Sony 50 1.8 - Sony 85GM - Sigma 135 f1.8 ART

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dbld49
Member
82 posts
Joined Jun 2009
Location: NB, NC
     
Apr 07, 2013 20:39 |  #19

daystar wrote in post #15798970 (external link)
I'm assuming you keep your shutter button pressed half-way after you get focused @ 70mm and then zoom out? I'll try that. I've had the lens probably a year now but haven't had much use with it as I have been so stupidly busy that I can barely manage to remember I actually have a photography interest! lol I'll test your suggestions for sure! Thank you!

I use back button focusing. I zoom to 70, pick something with contrast, like the eyes, and press the focus button. Then zoom out to whatever view I want, recompose, and hit the shutter.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Elfstop
Senior Member
Avatar
720 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 1
Joined Jun 2012
Location: Tennessee
     
Apr 07, 2013 20:47 |  #20

dbld49 wrote in post #15801705 (external link)
I use back button focusing. I zoom to 70, pick something with contrast, like the eyes, and press the focus button. Then zoom out to whatever view I want, recompose, and hit the shutter.

For what those cost should you go to all that trouble?




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
dbld49
Member
82 posts
Joined Jun 2009
Location: NB, NC
     
Apr 07, 2013 21:49 |  #21

Elfstop wrote in post #15801735 (external link)
For what those cost should you go to all that trouble?

It works fine for me. Plus it nails focus nearly all the time, so I don't consider it troubling. I can do it pretty quick.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
DreDaze
happy with myself for not saying anything stupid
Avatar
18,164 posts
Gallery: 45 photos
Likes: 2493
Joined Mar 2006
Location: S.F. Bay Area
     
Apr 07, 2013 22:14 |  #22

dbld49 wrote in post #15801705 (external link)
I use back button focusing. I zoom to 70, pick something with contrast, like the eyes, and press the focus button. Then zoom out to whatever view I want, recompose, and hit the shutter.

I'm surprised that works, considering the lens isn't parfocal


Andre or Dre
gear list
Instagram (external link)
flickr (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Scatterbrained
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
8,416 posts
Gallery: 211 photos
Best ofs: 11
Likes: 4080
Joined Jan 2010
Location: Chula Vista, CA
     
Apr 07, 2013 22:23 |  #23

DreDaze wrote in post #15802026 (external link)
I'm surprised that works, considering the lens isn't parfocal

I was just thinking the same thing. It isn't parfocal, but it's not too far off, plus going wide will hide the focus error I'd imagine. ;)

Granted, I can't relate to all of these "I hate my 24-70" threads. I bought mine new back in 09 and it's still stupid sharp. I'm actually worried that it will come back from Canon less sharp than it is now, as I have to send it in for repair.


VanillaImaging.com (external link)"Vacuous images for the Vapid consumer"
500px (external link)
flickr (external link)
1x (external link)
instagram (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ed ­ rader
"I am not the final word"
Avatar
23,132 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 451
Joined May 2005
Location: silicon valley
     
Apr 07, 2013 22:48 |  #24

daystar wrote in post #15798985 (external link)
And I had my hopes up...thank you for clarifying.

you mean thanks for crushing your fantasies ;)!


http://instagram.com/e​draderphotography/ (external link)
5D4, 80d, 16-35L F4 IS, 24-70L II, 70-200L F4 IS II, 100-400L II, sigma 15 FE, sigma 14 f1.8, tc 1.4 III, 430exII, gitzo 3542L + markins Q20, gitzo GT 1545T + markins Q3T, gitzo GM4562

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
ed ­ rader
"I am not the final word"
Avatar
23,132 posts
Gallery: 4 photos
Likes: 451
Joined May 2005
Location: silicon valley
     
Apr 07, 2013 22:52 |  #25

mandon wrote in post #15799419 (external link)
the same with me...i am starting to hate my 24 70, for the price i paid for it...its not just worth it....heck on bright day my kitlens takes better picture than the brick and it has been to canon for calibration twice....

the back asswards zoom design of the brick contributed to it's focus issues and need for massive, bag hogging bucket hood. of course a few years back here many were calling it a "superior" design.

I had two copies of the brick. the first copy was pretty good the second was excellent.


http://instagram.com/e​draderphotography/ (external link)
5D4, 80d, 16-35L F4 IS, 24-70L II, 70-200L F4 IS II, 100-400L II, sigma 15 FE, sigma 14 f1.8, tc 1.4 III, 430exII, gitzo 3542L + markins Q20, gitzo GT 1545T + markins Q3T, gitzo GM4562

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
mystik610
Cream of the Crop
Avatar
9,014 posts
Gallery: 36 photos
Best ofs: 1
Likes: 9295
Joined Jan 2012
Location: Houston, TX
     
Apr 08, 2013 06:30 |  #26

ed rader wrote in post #15802136 (external link)
the back asswards zoom design of the brick contributed to it's focus issues and need for massive, bag hogging bucket hood. of course a few years back here many were calling it a "superior" design.

I had two copies of the brick. the first copy was pretty good the second was excellent.

I kinda miss the bucket hood. PITA to store in a bag, but it looks badass when mounted on the lens.


focalpointsphoto.com (external link) - flickr (external link) - Instagram (external link)
α7ʀII - RX1ʀII - α7ʀIII
Zeiss Loxia 21 - Canon 24-70 2.8LII - Sony/Zeiss 35 f1.4 ZA - Sony 50 1.8 - Sony 85GM - Sigma 135 f1.8 ART

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
John ­ E
Goldmember
Avatar
1,024 posts
Joined May 2006
     
Apr 08, 2013 07:16 |  #27

There seems to be a wide variety of sharpness issues with this lens. Mine is sharp as a tack and I'm always amazed when I use it.


John E.
Canon 5D MK II; 30D; EF 85 f/1.8; EF 70-200L f/2.8 IS II; EF 24-105L f/4; EF 135L f/2; EF 24-70L; Canon 580 EX II(x3).

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
Pearlallica
Goldmember
Avatar
1,302 posts
Joined Aug 2008
Location: Great White North
     
Apr 08, 2013 07:50 |  #28

i suppose every person has their own standard for what constitutes a proper image. All of my lenses are L and I'm at a point where sharpness doesn't have the final say in what constitutes a beautiful photograph. When I want sharpness I am usually looking at the eyes and maybe hair and clothing texture. Many years ago when I shot with a Rebel+kit lens I purchased the 24-70 and believed it to be a substantial upgrade. Sharpness and contrast were among the first features to catch my eye. I shot with that lens for 4 years and constantly found myself in awe of the clarity and sharpness at all apertures. My problem with the lens ultimately boiled down to what I felt was a unsatisfactory focal length. When the 24-70 was announced I was quite hesitant to believe that further sharpness could be obtained from this lens. Sample images revealed it was possible and I clearly had different expectations from what a standard zoom could deliver.

I often wonder why sharpness enthusiasts don't simply purchase more Zeiss glass. It seems to me that this is a feature best utilized for landscape anyways. As far as portraits go (my primary and only subject matter for 13 years now) I don't see [Ultimate] sharpness as being critical because most of my clients really print at around 5x7 to 8x10 and sometimes 11x14 and 16x20 - point being that in the more rare cases of enlargements like 16x20 or even 24x30 you can sharpen in software if you're not completely satisfied with the output.

Hopefully your lens is well calibrated and in good working order. I know I've had to put all of my lenses through 1 or more calibrations for optimal performance. If you do feel that it's been pushed to full optimization and your images are still unsatisfactory, at least there are the options of better glass out there. As I said, my copy always shined at producing crisp, defined images. This lens certainly has great potential as its legacy will prove, but unfortunately that potential isn't always delivered straight out of the box as many others have discovered as well.


jonathan @ tlcphoto.com (external link) - pro wedding and portrait photog
5d2 5d3 50L 16-35 70-200 ElinchromRX600 580EX 600EX VIV285

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
cdifoto
Don't get pissy with me
Avatar
34,090 posts
Likes: 40
Joined Dec 2005
     
Apr 08, 2013 09:47 |  #29

ed rader wrote in post #15802136 (external link)
the back asswards zoom design of the brick contributed to it's focus issues and need for massive, bag hogging bucket hood. of course a few years back here many were calling it a "superior" design.

I had two copies of the brick. the first copy was pretty good the second was excellent.

I still think it's a superior design because I'm a klutz always knocking it against doorways and chairs.


Did you lose Digital Photo Professional (DPP)? Get it here (external link). Cursing at your worse-than-a-map reflector? Check out this vid! (external link)

  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
adamo99
Goldmember
1,173 posts
Gallery: 6 photos
Likes: 34
Joined Mar 2007
Location: Mississauga, ON
     
Apr 08, 2013 10:42 |  #30

I've owned three copies of the V1, and none were particularly sharp. They were all mediocre at best.




  
  LOG IN TO REPLY
sponsored links
(this ad will go away when you log in as a registered member)

4,511 views & 0 likes for this thread
Trying to love my 24-70mm but...
FORUMS Canon Cameras, Lenses & Accessories Canon EF and EF-S Lenses 
AAA
x 1600
y 1600

Jump to forum...   •  Rules   •  Index   •  New posts   •  RTAT   •  'Best of'   •  Gallery   •  Gear   •  Reviews   •  Member list   •  Polls   •  Image rules   •  Search   •  Password reset

Not a member yet?
Register to forums
Registered members may log in to forums and access all the features: full search, image upload, follow forums, own gear list and ratings, likes, more forums, private messaging, thread follow, notifications, own gallery, all settings, view hosted photos, own reviews, see more and do more... and all is free. Don't be a stranger - register now and start posting!


COOKIES DISCLAIMER: This website uses cookies to improve your user experience. By using this site, you agree to our use of cookies and to our privacy policy.
Privacy policy and cookie usage info.


POWERED BY AMASS forum software 2.1forum software
version 2.1 /
code and design
by Pekka Saarinen ©
for photography-on-the.net

Latest registered member is Snap Dragon
515 guests, 238 members online
Simultaneous users record so far is 15144, that happened on Nov 22, 2018

Photography-on-the.net Digital Photography Forums is the website for photographers and all who love great photos, camera and post processing techniques, gear talk, discussion and sharing. Professionals, hobbyists, newbies and those who don't even own a camera -- all are welcome regardless of skill, favourite brand, gear, gender or age. Registering and usage is free.