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A brilliant but Cheap Portrait lens 100mm F2.8 L Macro?

 
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Apr 07, 2013 15:26 as a reply to  @ post 15800332 |  #16

At one time, I did have a 5D2 and the 100/2.8 macro (non-L), ring flash and the 135/2.0 L. The 5D2 is gone but I still have the rest of the stuff. I don't think I'll ever sell the 100 macro. Good enough for good macros with the ring flash and great for portraits. Focus is a bit slow but how fast are your portrait subjects moving? I don't think I'll need the L-version.

If you need an "environmental portrait" of LeBron James, get yourself the 135/2 L. The 5D2 never took full advantage of the speed/quickness of the 135/2L but I hear that the 5D3 is much better.


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Apr 07, 2013 19:00 |  #17

I am having problem with 100/2.8L macro, as well as 180/3.5 L.
Sometime, they just blur and stop doing anything. I have to manually turn it a while(into some focus range, I guess), then they start focusing fine.
I am not complaining the speed of focusing, but rather stop doing anything.


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Apr 08, 2013 07:06 |  #18

Submariner wrote in post #15800044 (external link)
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OK I could risk a semi grey version, but sadly there are quite a few quality issue stories. So buying grey is more of of a risk.
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The other cheapish Portriat length would be the 24-105 L F4 . My negatives are :- only 3 stop IS , lots of quality issues so a concern to buy grey, at £650. And the big one only F4 so doesn't solve my low light requirement.

1st: With that thought process; avoid any grey market regardless of lens; the stories you're reading are likely due to larger installed user base; not quality control or lens issues. (Though original 24-70 had large production variance)

2nd: 100 f/2.8L is Macro first; portrait second. If you want a good macro lens that well do good portraits; it's a winner; sharp wide open.


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Apr 08, 2013 07:42 |  #19

If weather sealing and IS are important, then I am sure it will work. If you dont plan on shooting much macro though, think about the 85/1.8 or 100/2.


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Apr 08, 2013 09:14 |  #20

I'm a fan of the 100 2.8L for portraits. I bought it for both portraits and macro though. If you plan to just do portraits go with the 135 f2 L. That lens is amazing.


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Apr 08, 2013 15:54 |  #21

Why are you considering this as a portrait lens instead of the 100mm f2? I have both the 2.8 L macro and the f2. While the macro does portraits well, the f2 is a much better portrait lens. If you needed a macro, I would say go for it as the macro is a beautiful lens, but if you're looking for a portrait lens only, get the f2!




  
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Apr 08, 2013 21:42 |  #22

kponds wrote in post #15800278 (external link)
Macro doesn't have very fast AF anyway, the focus throw is very long (because they're designed for precise manual focus), and the AF motor has to do a whole lot of work to make it's way around. Even with the focus limiter switch, any other USM prime will be faster than a macro.

But the 100mm macros AF is still fast enough for portraits ....


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Apr 08, 2013 22:05 |  #23

Strictly for portraits? No. One of canons sharpest lenses? YES. Can it be used for portraits? Absolutely. A truly special sharp lens?? I could never part with it.

I love this review on the lens. It really sums it up quite nicely.

http://www.canonrumors​.com …on-ef-100-f2-8l-is-macro/ (external link)

I have sold a few L lenses, including the 70-200 2.8 MKII. (On my second copy) But the one lens I have would ever part with is the 100mm L 2.8.

It's one of the best macro lenses, and its great for portraits. But on a cropped camera, I'm sure there are better options.

Just had to give some love for this lens. :-)


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Apr 09, 2013 06:44 |  #24

CountryBoy wrote in post #15805891 (external link)
But the 100mm macros AF is still fast enough for portraits ....

I agree, it's absolutely fine, but Dre seemed to be under the impression that it was blazing fast in comparison to other lenses. It's not.




  
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Apr 09, 2013 08:38 |  #25

I was in a similar situation and bought the 100 F2 for candids. The isolation is great, and I can tell that with prolonged use, I'll be a 135 shooter eventually. Still learning this focal length before I can graduate to better glass, but I'm loving it so far. Excellent optics, and LOVE the small discreet size.

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Apr 09, 2013 09:05 |  #26

If you like 100mm for portraits, I would go with 100mm f/2 unless you need the macro capabilities.

If you can live without macro you get more performance in a smaller package. I believe it also focuses faster. Less is more.


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Apr 09, 2013 10:18 |  #27

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15807463 (external link)
If you like 100mm for portraits, I would go with 100mm f/2 unless you need the macro capabilities.

If you can live without macro you get more performance in a smaller package. I believe it also focuses faster. Less is more.


100Macros will be sharper (external link); speed of focus shouldn't really be noticeable for portaits between them with the focus limiter. Difference really is whether the .8 f/stop is worth the loss of IS +Macro; and as OP has stated he wants a macro lens; I don't really see a need to switch to the f/2. I would be only possible contention would be bokeh differences between them; but that's a hard sell for the loss in functionality if OP doesn't have deep lens budget.

kponds wrote in post #15800278 (external link)
Macro doesn't have very fast AF anyway, the focus throw is very long (because they're designed for precise manual focus), and the AF motor has to do a whole lot of work to make it's way around. Even with the focus limiter switch, any other USM prime will be faster than a macro.

Plenty fast enough for portraits; and i'd say with the limiter; my 100 f/2.8 macro (nonL) focuses faster than my 50 f/1.2L. (And much faster than 85 f/1.2 which is considered the holy grail for portraits)


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Apr 09, 2013 10:19 |  #28

kponds wrote in post #15807071 (external link)
I agree, it's absolutely fine, but Dre seemed to be under the impression that it was blazing fast in comparison to other lenses. It's not.

I didn't say anything about the AF speed of the 100mm...my post was to counter his reasoning for not getting, what I determine to be better suited lenses...ruling out a 85L because of focus speed, when it's for portraits doesn't make much sense to me

as I said, his need for IS and faster focus don't really go along with portraits in my opinion.


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Apr 09, 2013 10:32 |  #29

Love it on my FF for portraits.


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Apr 09, 2013 12:13 |  #30

w0m wrote in post #15807741 (external link)
100Macros will be sharper (external link); speed of focus shouldn't really be noticeable for portaits between them with the focus limiter. Difference really is whether the .8 f/stop is worth the loss of IS +Macro; and as OP has stated he wants a macro lens; I don't really see a need to switch to the f/2. I would be only possible contention would be bokeh differences between them; but that's a hard sell for the loss in functionality if OP doesn't have deep lens budget.

Plenty fast enough for portraits; and i'd say with the limiter; my 100 f/2.8 macro (nonL) focuses faster than my 50 f/1.2L. (And much faster than 85 f/1.2 which is considered the holy grail for portraits)

There's no right answer. I merely stated a biased, untested, subjective personal preference.

I maintain sharpness differences in current canon primes don't matter for most subjects, let alone portraits where you want a softer lens. Unless I forgot about some junker in a drawer, the only tele I have is a dusty 100mm pentax f/4 macro and it handles all of my tele needs.

Also, at 100mm even in the 70-300 zoom the DOF is short enough to leave one eye out of focus.

But you're right, the autofocus speed doesn't seem to be relevant.


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