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Torn between 5D3 and 1DX

 
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Apr 12, 2013 07:18 |  #1

Hello,

I have the chance to start from the very beginning after getting a full refund for my 5D3.
In the last few weeks I contemplated the 1DX. It is not that I really need this cam, it is more a want-have-feeling. ;)

Anyway... I like to shoot people, portrait, landscape and available light, but no sports until now, so that I really don't need the 12fps.
There is one thing that really bothered me: 5D3 has no AF-linked spotmetering, but this is something which does not justify the upgrade to the 1DX for me.
I often read that the 5D3 has the same AF, on the other side the 1DX is more accurate. Is this true?
There are some minor things which tempts me to upgrade to the 1DX, but I still have to ponder.

Is there a no-sport-shooter here who upgraded from 5D3 to 1DX? Do you regret this step?


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Apr 12, 2013 07:21 |  #2

As 1Dx thread has MUCH BETTER shots than 5D3's; go for 1Dx ;)


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Apr 12, 2013 07:41 as a reply to  @ x_tan's post |  #3

I often read that the 5D3 has the same AF, on the other side the 1DX is more accurate. Is this true?

yes and no. They have the same 61 points and AF abilities, but how the 1D X meters the AF is different ( I can't remember the name). Supposedly the 1D X can track better because of this. However, I have never had problems tracking fast moving objects with my 5D3.

If you have the money for a 1D X, and need a good sports camera, go for it. If you don't have a need for a sports camera, save the money for glass or lighting.


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Apr 12, 2013 07:49 |  #4

The 1DX tracks better and acquires focus faster. It also has spot metering linked to autofocus, a feature I use a lot. And another feature I use that's found in 1D series cameras is spot meter averaging. But it's a heavy rascal to carry around, especially when coupled with an L lens.


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Apr 12, 2013 07:57 |  #5

Jon_Doh wrote in post #15819217 (external link)
But it's a heavy rascal to carry around, especially when coupled with an L lens.

No problem, I regularly go to the gym. ;)
Besides I always used the 5D3 with the grip.


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Apr 12, 2013 09:02 |  #6

Sounds like the 5D3 would be all you need.
It would give you larger files for landscape photos.
Since you are not tracking birds in flight or sports the AF should do the job.


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Apr 12, 2013 09:41 |  #7

I think the 5d is an excellent choice. For what your shooting the 5d is great. I had the itch for the 1d too. Image quality is neck to neck between the two cameras. the 1d does have little features that make shooting easier. Tracking is a little easier with the 1d. I dont know which camera I like more. When I shoot i switch back and forth between the two. I love the 5ds larger files.


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Apr 12, 2013 09:46 |  #8

The 1DX has a dual digic+5 where the 5D3 only has the one.

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Apr 12, 2013 09:48 |  #9

I don't see for your purposes why you would need to spend the extra. Get another 5D3 and put that extra into some more glass. That will get you a lot further than the benefits of the 1DX which you won't likely use and certainly don't need to have.


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Apr 12, 2013 09:49 |  #10

From what I've read, sounds like the 5D3 will suit your needs and save you some scratch. Having said that, if you have the cash and want the 1DX, get it. If you're not using it professionally they're both expensive toys and everybody knows that the person with the most expensive toys wins. If you want it and can afford it get it. If it turns out that you're not crazy about it sell it, buy a 5D3 with the proceeds and swallow the loss.

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Apr 12, 2013 09:58 |  #11

I have both - I can tell you that for me, the situations where the 1Dx is superior are relegated only to high-action sports photography. 2 recent examples where the 5D3 let me down (before I had 1Dx... the reason I bought 1Dx)
1. photographing Ironman on the bike leg. I was positioned shortly after a downhill (high speed) and I was trying to get a full length plus a tight crop (head/seat/handlebars) as the athletes were coming past. The accuracy on the first shot was excellent (mostly perfect focus) but the second shot was a disaster. There was a crazy lag on the shutter... and when it did take the photo they were mostly out of focus. I switched back to an old 1D3 I had with me and it was MUCH better.
2. Photographing a gymnastics competition. I had 1D4 plus 5D3 with me. The 5D3 could NOT handle the terrible lighting combined with the high action. I ended up using the 5D3 with a 35mm lens in manual focus for some fixed distance stuff (beam, vault landing) but the 1D4 was the only camera I could trust for the telephoto shots

Since picking up the 1Dx I have not had problems in those two scenarios.


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Apr 12, 2013 10:04 |  #12

I have both. I like the frame rate, high ISO quality and the somewhat better AF in the 1Dx. That being said, the 5D3 is an excellent camera. When I travel I only take the 5D3 as I can take the grip off and it is much lighter to lug around.


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Apr 12, 2013 13:08 |  #13

cwood wrote in post #15819676 (external link)
I have both - I can tell you that for me, the situations where the 1Dx is superior are relegated only to high-action sports photography. 2 recent examples where the 5D3 let me down (before I had 1Dx... the reason I bought 1Dx)
1. photographing Ironman on the bike leg. I was positioned shortly after a downhill (high speed) and I was trying to get a full length plus a tight crop (head/seat/handlebars) as the athletes were coming past. The accuracy on the first shot was excellent (mostly perfect focus) but the second shot was a disaster. There was a crazy lag on the shutter... and when it did take the photo they were mostly out of focus. I switched back to an old 1D3 I had with me and it was MUCH better.
2. Photographing a gymnastics competition. I had 1D4 plus 5D3 with me. The 5D3 could NOT handle the terrible lighting combined with the high action. I ended up using the 5D3 with a 35mm lens in manual focus for some fixed distance stuff (beam, vault landing) but the 1D4 was the only camera I could trust for the telephoto shots

Since picking up the 1Dx I have not had problems in those two scenarios.

That's an interesting post, the first I've heard comparing the 5D3 to a 1D3 unfavourably in any way shape or form............


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Apr 12, 2013 13:17 |  #14

I debated between a 1DX and a pair of 5D3s.... the 5D won out, it does everything I need... and more


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Apr 12, 2013 14:29 |  #15

I have both. I had the 1D x for about 3 months before the 5D 3. The weight of the 1D x is about the same as a gripped 5D 3. The metering system is different. I would say that the exposure on the 1D x is bang on whereas the 5D 3 underexposes just a bit. I think the viewfinder in the 1D x is brighter than the 5D 3. The amoint of customization available in the 1D x is unbelievable. The customization of the 5D 3 is no where near what is available on the 1D x. The 1D x has interchangeable viewing screens and the 5D 3 does not. The 1D x has two DIGIC 5+ processors and one DIGIC 4 processor just for AF. The 5D 3 has one DIGIC 5+ processor. The metering system on the 5D 3 is the same 63 zone as the 7D and 1D IV. The metering system on the 1D x uses a 100,000 pixel RGB sensor.

I think the noise capability of the 1D x is slightly better with the advantage of sharpness going slightly to the 5D 3. The 1D x also has face recognition metering or iTR and the 5D 3 does not. Focus lock and staying locked is clearly with the 1D x. With the larger voltage battery, the 1D x makes the 85 II focus rather quickly. Similarily with all lenses. While the 5D 3 is certainly quick, the 1D x is just that much faster.

Which would I choose now that I have and use both.... Good question, because each has it's own PROS. For landscapes, portraits and casual shooting, I pick up the 5D 3. For sports and wildlife/birding, the 1D x is king.




  
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