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Apr 15, 2013 13:54 |  #16
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DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15830518 (external link)
Yes. You should.

I haven't seen your pictures, but I'm sure they look like they haven't been shot with a latest generation camera.

5Dc is obsolete at this point. The next generation of sensors would give you a higher dynamic range, which is pretty much the most important point with landscape photography. It sells for 400 bucks for a reason.

Ever heard of Photoshop, Lightroom, HDR?

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15830547 (external link)
Those unique opportunities would be wasted with his current camera.

'Cuz we all know that anything worth photographing REQUIRES a 1Dx and a red ring, right?

What a crock! I still get shots with old film cameras that I couldn't get with digital. Obsolete - shmobsolete. Elitist BS.


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Apr 15, 2013 14:02 |  #17

TSchrief wrote in post #15830632 (external link)
What a crock! I still get shots with old film cameras that I couldn't get with digital. Obsolete - shmobsolete. Elitist BS.

Wasn't it shown about 10 years ago that there's no reason to shoot film? Digital surpassed it in every parameter. It's sharper and easier.

And there's no reason for hate just cause you don't have one.


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Apr 15, 2013 14:47 |  #18
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Wasn't it shown about 10 years ago that there's no reason to shoot film? Digital surpassed it in every parameter. It's sharper and easier.

And there's no reason for hate just cause you don't have one.

I see this as MORE elitist BS. YOU don't have any use for film, so YOU assume no one else should use it either. I still shoot film regularly. This will really blow your mind: I still use an all-manual film camera. OMFG! On top of that, I still use manual flash, when necessary. The end-result is not the only aspect of photography. I happen to enjoy the PROCESS of making a photograph. Add to that the limitations of 24 shots on a roll vs. a 32GB card and chimping. When shooting film, I am REQUIRED to think of everything BEFORE I press the shutter-button. Framing, focal length, lighting DOF, background - all of it. There is no spray-n-pray with a manual film camera. It takes me (and lots of others) back to the essentials of photography.

Hate? You are the one slamming the results of a 5D, while at the same time proudly declaring that you've NEVER SEEN the OP's output. What exactly would I be hating? I already own the best APS-c body, the best full-frame body and the best manual film body I can get, for me. Sure, there are bodies in each category with more bells & whistles than the ones I use. I chose the best products for me. I allow others to do the same. If you are using a 1Dx, and that works for you, I'm happy for you. I am equally happy for you if you are using an XS and the kit lens, or anything in between.


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Apr 15, 2013 14:53 |  #19

TSchrief wrote in post #15830817 (external link)
This will really blow your mind: I still use an all-manual film camera. OMFG!

Why would you do that if canon makes flashes which expose for you?

On top of that, I still use manual flash, when necessary. The end-result is not the only aspect of photography. I happen to enjoy the PROCESS of making a photograph. Add to that the limitations of 24 shots on a roll vs. a 32GB card and chimping. When shooting film, I am REQUIRED to think of everything BEFORE I press the shutter-button. Framing, focal length, lighting DOF, background - all of it. There is no spray-n-pray with a manual film camera. It takes me (and lots of others) back to the essentials of photography.

Yes. But you can think about the same things in digital. And you just shoot 24 frames as well - it doesn't matter if you have a big card.

I already own the best APS-c body, the best full-frame body and the best manual film body I can get, for me. Sure, there are bodies in each category with more bells & whistles than the ones I use. I chose the best products for me. I allow others to do the same. If you are using a 1Dx, and that works for you, I'm happy for you. I am equally happy for you if you are using an XS and the kit lens, or anything in between.

You don't seem to be very happy with the OP wanting reasons to get a new camera. Clearly he'd prefer the mkIII. I don't see the happiness, with all this talk of film and everything manual.


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Apr 15, 2013 14:58 |  #20

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15830547 (external link)
Those unique opportunities would be wasted with his current camera.

I'm not familiar with any subjects that would run away at the sight of a 5Dc...

the gear he has will be more than good enough to shoot 99% of what he wants to shoot at almost any given time


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Apr 15, 2013 15:06 |  #21

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I'm not familiar with any subjects that would run away at the sight of a 5Dc...

the gear he has will be more than good enough to shoot 99% of what he wants to shoot at almost any given time

Why did you sell yours and got three of the next versions?

Is it for that pesky 1% that needs three bodies? :cool:


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DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15830842 (external link)
Why would you do that if canon makes flashes which expose for you?


Yes. But you can think about the same things in digital. And you just shoot 24 frames as well - it doesn't matter if you have a big card.


You don't seem to be very happy with the OP wanting reasons to get a new camera. Clearly he'd prefer the mkIII. I don't see the happiness, with all this talk of film and everything manual.

And yet more elitist BS! I don't do it the way you do it, therefore I am wrong. OK, I'll buy that. If it makes you happy, I'm wrong. I will immediately stop enjoying my film camera, my 60D and my 5D, my collection and lenses and flash guns and even my lights and umbrellas. Please inform me, O Wise One, which camera can I buy that will make you happy? I am eagerly awaiting your sage advice on what makes someone you've never met happy.


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Apr 15, 2013 15:18 |  #23

How is it elitist to want more dynamic range out of your camera?

Please inform me, O Wise One, which camera can I buy that will make you happy? I am eagerly awaiting your sage advice on what makes someone you've never met happy.

This is getting complex. Who are we making happy?

I thought the thread is about making the OP happy. And he needs reasons for getting a new camera to be happy.

Myself - I'm happy.

If you start a different thread, I'll try to make you happy in that thread by giving you what you want.


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Apr 15, 2013 15:26 |  #24

DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15830908 (external link)
Why did you sell yours and got three of the next versions?

Is it for that pesky 1% that needs three bodies? :cool:

money to burn...

the newer bodies don't make shooting opportunities that didn't exist with older bodies...
they just change the shooting experience... bigger bells, louder whistles, etc... etc...


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DocFrankenstein wrote in post #15830974 (external link)
How is it elitist to want more dynamic range out of your camera?

This is getting complex. Who are we making happy?

I thought the thread is about making the OP happy. And he needs reasons for getting a new camera to be happy.

Myself - I'm happy.

If you start a different thread, I'll try to make you happy in that thread by giving you what you want.

The thread was originally asking if there were any good reason to upgrade from the 5D. For lots of us, there is not. That is my position. Feel free to continue to pontificate on the benefits of doing it your way.


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Apr 15, 2013 15:28 |  #26

SMP_Homer wrote in post #15831018 (external link)
money to burn...

the newer bodies don't make shooting opportunities that didn't exist with older bodies...
they just change the shooting experience... bigger bells, louder whistles, better pictures etc... etc...

(The bold part it mine) :o


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Apr 15, 2013 16:06 |  #27

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(The bold part it mine) :o

in some instances - mostly higher ISOs - is really the only time you get better pictures...
but I've been shooting weddings for 6 years, and there are pictures that I look at from previous years where I cannot remember what body was used... for the most part, I can't tell


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Apr 15, 2013 18:02 |  #28

No. I would answer this question in more detail but I'm trying to get my taxes done using an abacus. Why should I use an electronic calculator--this old technology is great!


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Apr 15, 2013 18:12 |  #29
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Convince you to buy a new camera? OK... buy a new camera or we'll kill this dog.

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Apr 15, 2013 19:00 |  #30

Cut the dog's ear off and mail it to the op to let him know that you are serious.


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